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LOL Blitz died ASAP again :P

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Admins, I know there was a point where in the rules it was possible for the Mafia to make multiple kills per night, but we discussed changing it. Did it end up being changed so that they could only kill once a night? Because if so, it means we can determine that only one of these people died at their hands.

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Tid wrote:
Admins, I know there was a point where in the rules it was possible for the Mafia to make multiple kills per night, but we discussed changing it. Did it end up being changed so that they could only kill once a night? Because if so, it means we can determine that only one of these people died at their hands.


Yes, it has been changed to "one Mafia/Pirate kill a night."

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So, in accordance to what Jason just said, we can assume that one of these was silenced by the non-Mafia killing role, and the other was slayed by the Space Pirates.

Now, if I had a killing role, I'd aim for someone close to me, since there would be less danger of getting a less-then-enjoyable surprise in the hallways.
The closest person to Kirby is Peperuru. If he had a killing role, then it would make perfect sense for him to kill Kirby, as then there would be less of a chance of someone getting their hands on the item in node D.

Blitzamirin's room is pretty close to node B, so there's a good chance that he/she? would go for getting it. Room 6 is empty, making the chances of Blitz's success even higher, and thus giving him/her? all the more reason to go for the item. If I was Toad, the only person closer to the node then Blitz, then I would have predicted this and killed him/her, because there would be a very high chance of succeeding. The other person next to Blitz is Tid. Now, if he had the killing role, then it would make more sense for him to kill Toad, because Toad is closer to the node then Blitz. So Toad is more suspicious, in my opinion.

This gives us a good lead.

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Rooms won't stop the Mafia/Space Pirates. They have little to fear from people wandering the hallways.

There are so many non-mafia roles that can kill. Vigilante, serial killer ,and bomb, I think, are the most comman. I don't know what to do from here. I'm...stuck? Without even allighnment lead, we can't figure out odds.

One last thing. For the night kill, the mafia sends ONE PERSON to do the killing, right? If that person, say, accidently met the vigilante in the hallways and was killed, no Mafia kill would happen, correct?


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I must have forgotten to clarify something when we went back to a more traditional mafia set-up. You will never meet anyone in the hallways. The reason for that is because I couldn't figure out how to balance this aspect in time, and I didn't want to delay the game further. The map is instead used for things like tracking, watching and perhaps the occasional laying of a mine.

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So, in accordance to what Jason just said, we can assume that one of these was silenced by the non-Mafia killing role, and the other was slayed by the Space Pirates.

Now, if I had a killing role, I'd aim for someone close to me, since there would be less danger of getting a less-then-enjoyable surprise in the hallways.
The closest person to Kirby is Peperuru. If he had a killing role, then it would make perfect sense for him to kill Kirby, as then there would be less of a chance of someone getting their hands on the item in node D.

Blitzamirin's room is pretty close to node B, so there's a good chance that he/she? would go for getting it. Room 6 is empty, making the chances of Blitz's success even higher, and thus giving him/her? all the more reason to go for the item. If I was Toad, the only person closer to the node then Blitz, then I would have predicted this and killed him/her, because there would be a very high chance of succeeding. The other person next to Blitz is Tid. Now, if he had the killing role, then it would make more sense for him to kill Toad, because Toad is closer to the node then Blitz. So Toad is more suspicious, in my opinion.

This gives us a good lead.

I didn't kill anyone. I promise I don't have a killing role. If I am to reveal myself, then I will, but I didn't kill anybody.
In fact, I didn't even notice Blitz's room was near mine. For my night action, I didn't go in the K hallway.

As for me, I suspect Shin Akuma. He only put in one post, and that was a vote. My role proves it, but for the sake of the game, I won't say yet till needed. Also, I won't bold my vote, either. Whoever has the protective role should trying protecting me tonight... but that's later.
Right now, I suspect all of the pirates have posted at least once. That should give some more clues.

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Toad, I do believe that you just outed yourself as a power role/investigator anyways, unless you're full of s#%$&.

Anyways, I'm a think Toad's suspicion is very good, if he's not a Space Pirate I'd assume he's a lurker anyways, and this can have dire consequences on the endgame, particularly with making him hard to read. But... Toad isn't instant clear because he claimed an investigative role, so I don't know who the doctor should be on tonight. There is more than one investigative, so it wouldn't make the other investigatives jump at it... I just don't know.

Today we can test Toad's suspicions -- Shin Akuma was, by him, revealed to be suspicious, so I propose an electrocution on Shin Akuma. Anyone else is free to dispute this.

As for my FoS, it'd have to be Tid. His insistence on NLing in a game with more than one killing role seems quite suspicious to me. I think the fact that this was a no reveal setup was his fallback incase he was rebutted.

For now, we should lynch who Toad confirms as a Space Pirate. It's one of our only leads as of now.. Objections?

Thanks snowflakecat. You are right, I have an investigator role.
As for Shin Akuma, until he proves he isn't:
Vote: Shin Akuma

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Wait...were the dead guys Mafia/Space Pirates or Crew?

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Wait...were the dead guys Mafia/Space Pirates or Crew?

I'm guessing Crew. Pirates wouldn't kill their own this early in the game.

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Toad, you can't just say "I promise I'm not..." and people will believe you. The point of the game is lying, and your "promise" could be very much that. A lie. Under different circumstances I'd consider it more likely, due to the fact that no-one has CCed you. But there are 3 investigative roles and you could definitely be one of them, you're giving off a too-stupid-to-lie kind of vibe.
Plus it is the only lead we have.
Vote: Shin Akuma
@Somebodyudontknow: One of the deaths would have to have been a crew member, because the Mafia wouldn't have killed one of their own. The other death would've been caused by the fourth person who has the ability to kill, and this early in the game, it was probably just a random guess. So they could've been mafia OR crew. Most likely crew, due to the ratio of crew:mafia.

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Oh, so you can't meet people in hallways. Which means that there's no reason for the killing roles to kill someone in a room that is close to them.
So really, the only lead we have now is Toad. I'll trust him for now...
Vote: Shin Akuma

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I assure you guys that i'm not aligned with the pirates, and if I had the third party killing role I would kill snowflakecat due to him being more experienced.

Your assumption is good Toad, but allow me to add on to that. You metioned that someone could be pirate aligned if the only post they made was their vote. That includes me, but that also include peperuru. Even though he voted too late, it still would have been his first post since the game started. Also, he didn't give a reason and we haven't seen him.

Snowflakecat, the reason why I haven't posted so much was to keep character, but i'll post more in order to keep myself safe.

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Shin Akuma wrote:
I assure you guys that i'm not aligned with the pirates, and if I had the third party killing role I would kill snowflakecat due to him being more experienced.

We don't know for sure that the fourth killer is one of the third party roles, remember.

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Oh, so you can't meet people in hallways. Which means that there's no reason for the killing roles to kill someone in a room that is close to them.

We've only been told about the no-meeting rule today. Last night when the kills were made, everyone was thinking that you COULD meet people in the hallways.

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Shin Akuma wrote:
I assure you guys that i'm not aligned with the pirates, and if I had the third party killing role I would kill snowflakecat due to him being more experienced.

Your assumption is good Toad, but allow me to add on to that. You metioned that someone could be pirate aligned if the only post they made was their vote. That includes me, but that also include peperuru. Even though he voted too late, it still would have been his first post since the game started. Also, he didn't give a reason and we haven't seen him.

Snowflakecat, the reason why I haven't posted so much was to keep character, but i'll post more in order to keep myself safe.

However, Shin Akuma, I have now showed that I am an investigator. I investigated you last night (don't take it the wrong way) and I had found you guilty. Now, I admit I suspect peperuru to be a pirate as well, but I assume you aren't a backstabber, correct? Considering you are a pirate, trying to put the blame on another fellow pirate is just not normal. Peruperu may, in fact, be crew. So therefore, you are trying to put the spotlight on another to hide yourself from lynching.

My point has been said.

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