Uh, I'm not sure what you're trying to say, but there are definitely degrees of certainty and uncertainty. in Mafia 90% is just a way of saying "highly probable". Trying to boil everything down to risk and uncertainty without considering the actual degree of risk or uncertainty involved doesn't help much.

I've been pro-lynch since I got a Guilty result lol


Hm, yeah, that's a valid question. From what I'm seeing though the risk is miniscule and worth taking.



That's not what I meant. I'm saying we should vote her because voting her would do things like pressuring her to claim, which would help us a lot.Apparently she's not going to claim unless more people vote her, and more people aren't voting her.



I'd agree that there are multiple investigative roles in the show, but then again Hank is pretty much the big one, both plot-wise and skill-wise.


Again, equalizing all possibilities and not taking into account levels of probability is not going to help. But now, when I think of it, you bring up a great point. Asking Lucina to claim probably won't be of much help since she probably can use King Arthur's role, under the likely assumption that the Mafia knows his role.


There is no rushing or no rushing. It's either Lynch or no Lynch. Don't attempt making no Lynch sound overly attractive by criticizing our ony other option.

Actually, we should probably still ask her to claim so that if she uses the Safe-Claim from King Arthur's role, at least another Mafia on't be able to. Assuming that the Mafia knows King Arthur's role.

Ok, fully caught up.

First of all, I want to say that I adore 135’s play right now. He makes valid points, his play strategy makes sense and he clearly has the town’s best interests at heart. Strongest town read by far. As for his sanity, I did a little bit of research on his character and the relevant wiki page gives no indication that his results would be inaccurate. It reads I see no reason to assume that his own role might be responsible for any incorrect results.

I agree with 135’s primary case against Lucina: the accusations of activity without contribution. As I recall, not once have I seen Lucina post something that moved the game forward significantly, barring perhaps a defensive-leaning post or two that served only as a springboard for analysis by others. I know him/her to be capable of more than this, and I would like him/her to explain to the town why he/she has not been contributing in accordance with his/her usual tendencies.

Seeing as the deadline is upon us, I am also a fan of having Lucina claim. Vote: Lucina

Speaking of those that post many times but add little, can we please stop giving Axel a free pass because of his poor play in previous games? Yes, he has played bad town before, but look it his play now, in this game. It is of mediocre quality, but I am unable to discern those same vibes that come from bad town in his posts. Bad townies usually try to be helpful, but Axel seems intent on barreling down dead ends with no case to back him up and little regard for what is actually going on. Not once in the last fifteen pages did I see any concrete reasoning for his belief that 135 is lying. I would like to see a case from him. Also dangerous is allowing him to coast on a seemingly favourable investigation result that we know to come from an admittedly “sketchy” role.

On a closely related note, Geno, why were you so quick to question 135’s investigation, but not your own? From what I understand, your results are not as clear-cut as those of a traditional cop, so the chances of your sanity being questionable are lower. However, that does not exempt you from the interference of bus drivers and the like. If Axel is mafia, would it not make sense for a scum busdriver to redirect your investigation, especially since you outright stated that you would be investigating him? Why do you have such faith in your own results, but not in those of another investigative role?

If I can allow myself some speculation, I would like to suggest the possibility of a Geno - Axel scum link. This seems consistent with the latter’s Day 1 actions, which could be interpreted as a hard early-game drive to distance himself from his partner without running a terribly significant risk of a lynch actually going through. (Especially not with the non-case that was presented.) Such a scenario also offers an alternative motive for Geno’s wanting to aim actions away from Axel on Night 1.

So then would you say that Lucina, Geno, and Axel are a possible scum team in this case?

s***. Geno is town, and I'm pretty sure Lucina is too. You can call me scum all you want but that doesn't make it true. Not liking Brik's post. This wagon.... I do not like it.

Saying that makes me believe Brik's logic a whole lot more, not only are you defending yourself against one guy, but you are also defending other people you claim to care about their wellbeing.
Brik you have a good point, so I to; Vote: Lucina

Wellbeing wtf I dun care bout Geno or lucina's irl problems I just think they are townz

-_-. That's not what I meant, silly. I mean as in you just want to make sure Lucina doesn't get lynched.

This is what is bugging me, No-one fully implied Geno and yourself were full on scum, just a scum link, which I say, doesn't always mean mafia to me. You don't like Brik's post because it harms Lucina's, Geno's, and most importantly yourself's reliability. You don't like the wagon because for all we know, Brik and 135 could be right, we could have 3 mafias right in front of us, and if we lynch Lucina, we might nab a scum.

But I will say, if 135 is wrong, I will be very surprised, especially since Geno may be making a lot of good points, but it doesn't defy the evidence, unless LUCINA claims.

I'll go ahead and claim since you're hell-bent on making me, but I don't want Geno targeting me with his ability since even I can look up a character on the wiki and give a brief description about them. Here's a tip: don't investigate players who have already revealed their character.

I am Skinny Pete, town mason and my partner is Pachino, also a mason and the one that really tried to recruit Cactush last night.

135, your ability was either hindered or you're lying.

And I don't really see why I wouldn't be targeted by a framer.
I made the last comment of the day to King Arthur, who mysteriously ends up dead the next day. If anyone would be targeted by a framer, it'd be me.

The sad thing is, if you're really the cop, then you exposed yourself over an incorrect result.

But I do agree that Geno and Axel have become overly defending of me (Axel more so than Geno).

I think that if you decide to lynch someone other than me, it should be Axel. Of course the mafia would know I'm not one of them.

First of all, I'm sorry to say this, but your claim is rather conviniently safe. I mean, I wouldn't even call Pete a secondary character lol

But then again, now that you've brought Pachino into this, things get a bit more complicated. Firstly, it's suspicious that he has not yet come to defend you explicitly. I would imagine that he would be less neutral about Lynching you if you guys were actually confirmed Town to each other. Also, if you're the mason, and he recruits, what do you do? Do you also recruit? Furthermore, if you're really Town, why would you bring Cactush into this? It is not a vital part of your reveal and you're just giving information to the Mafia.


That's...well, I don't see it. What you said barely resembles anything against him. Furthermore, what does King Arthur getting targeted affect you? The Cop can't say, "King Arthur's dead, let's investigate people who went against him" last night because they wouldn't know King Arthur was targeted until Day 2, after they have used their ability. I don't really see why the Mafia would target you to Frame.

I actually agree with you that Axel is going overboard lol
Geno might be too, but for the moment he's kind of Null to me.

Overall, I find your claim less than satisfactory.

Pachino where you at.

I just love how 135 is literally always around to address things.

Woot, getting internet tomo. I'll get WAY more active tomorrow hopefully, considering how its the deadline.

Would you mind explaining? I know nothing of this, having joined in the middle of this day.

We tried to recruit Kyuubit but it must not have gotten through. We were most likely roleblocked.

Lucina's right, we are indeed masons (character name's Badger Mayhew by the way). Now that the mafia knows this, they're likely to target someone else and hit a a power role.

I was sleeping.

Really not liking these two posts. So far all you've done is pick someone and say "HAY GUIZ I THINK THEY'RE TOWN!!" You haven't given any sort of reasoning as to why you think they're town. In fact, even I agree that Lucina has been acting scummy, even though I know she's town.