Yup.

Going back to the Lucario topic, here is ZeRo's thoughts on Lucario currently.



Also I have been playing Charizard a lot recently and wanted to know if anyone else has been trying him out?

i've gotten to the point where i'm not really listening to ZeRo as opposed to people who actually play as the characters

i'll listen to his thoughts on the Sheik MUs and occasionally where he thinks characters will be placed but he jumps to conclusions really quickly, almost as quick as M2K does sometimes. i also take his tier placing comments with a grain of salt since this meta is too new to really get down well

if it's anything like Melee (which the top tiers seem to be comparable by this point) then the top tiers will be close enough where it won't really matter what order ZSS, Rosa, Luigi, and Sheik are at



also amusingly enough in the early days i think M2K thought Bowser was like, S tier or something. and Duck Hunt and Robin were A tier. Sheik was trash.

luma is just a floating hitbox

the ice climbers is two characters, one being controlled by the AI

Yeah I know what you mean. A lot of people kept saying who were top ten characters I heard ranging from Zelda and Bowser being top ten characters to Lucario and Mario being top ten characters.

lol the comments were saying the same thing.

Me and my friend were talking about this earlier, that this game really made certain characters shine when compared to the other games such as Yoshi, Luigi, Ness and Mario.

Dangit Sakurai. Why couldn't we just have a non-AI Ice Climbers then? Not sure how desyncing would play out, but still.

if there's a non-AI Ice Climbers then

one of them will just stand there

do you not get how this works

the Luma is just an extension of Rosalina

the second Ice Climber is an actual character

Why not just one ice climber and change the up-spec, do people really need to have 2 to play as?

i'm sure if there was a solution (other than the terrible SoPo idea) they'd go with it anyways

it's not like the game crashed once and Sakurai threw the 3DS


and yes, we do need to have two to play as because otherwise it ruins the point of the ice climbers. they're very unique for having two and getting rid of one makes them a really boring character with nothing interesting

why don't nintendo just make a handheld that doesn't have the power of a baked potato

Because sony set the bar so low with the psp and vita.

He said Bowser, ZSS and Duck Hunt were S Tier.
Robin was "high tier"
And Sheik wasn't good really because she "had no range and couldn't kill".

Read it here.

I think with 1.10, Robin has a chance to rise a few tiers, but not to high.

Because then ice climbers wouldn't be ice climbers anymore.lol It was there choice to make guess we gotta deal with it.

Can the NEW3ds handle ice climbers? Also, how does everyone feel if shovel knight is the next smash character?

Rather have shantae but hey he is cool too, making his expansion moveset as we speak.