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			| Starkiller SSF2 Developer 
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				   |   I think that's perfectly valid.  I've had to change my current ssf2 setup a bit in order to give myself more control over my characters, but I would prefer to use a GC controller because it is so familiar._________________Men that are trapped by the chains of "maybe" can never reach their dreams!The weak are washed away by the tides of fate. The strong drink it up.
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			| Lunary 
					Joined: Thu Dec 18, 2014 9:19 amPosts:  730Location:  NopevilleCountry:  Gender:  Male
					
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				   |   I don't get why she needs that Knockback on her Up-B... _________________
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			| goml BR Member 
					Joined: Sat Aug 23, 2014 12:22 pm
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   |   I don't see why she need's that windbox.
 I think it should really be a regular hitbox
 
 Right now it can either gimp you out of nowhere, or get powersheilded and cause unavoidable death to Sheik
 
 
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			| Mon Dec 22, 2014 7:17 pm | 
					
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			| Zapperrix BR Member 
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   |   It is a regular hitbox. The windbox is just around it.
 I think that the windbox is poor design and should be removed.
 
 
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			| Tue Dec 23, 2014 3:19 am | 
					
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			| Jaguar3600 
					Joined: Mon Jul 28, 2014 12:53 pmPosts:  164Country:  Gender:  Anime Girl
					
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						Currently Playing:  SSF2 Beta, Pokemon Moon, SSB4, Mario Kart 7
					
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				   |   Vanish is fine. The hitbox is the least powerful that it's ever been in a Smash game and is nerfed from the previous version. It doesn't even have kill power anymore. The windbox really isn't that bad, but I wouldn't mind seeing it nerfed.For other Sheik changes, F-air probably deserves a nerf to knockback as it hits way too hard for such a fast attack. It makes Sheik's combos and edgeguarding extremely scary and it's knockback should probably be reduced to be around B-air's.
 I also think that B-throw should probably send opponents at a higher angle than it does now. Sheik doesn't really need a kill throw like that. I think it would work better if it sent opponents at a 15-30 degree angle upwards with the same knockback.
 For buffs, all I want is for Side-B to be buffed in some way. Chain is really useless in this game, so I have a few ideas for buffs.
 1. Make Chain a tether recovery like in Brawl and/or give it some type of onstage usage.
 2. Change Side-B to Burst Grenade from Smash 4.
 3. Change Side-B to Bouncing Fish from Smash 4.
 
 That's all though. I absolutely adore how Sheik plays in this game and I hope that she doesn't change too much in future versions. Stay classy Sheik.
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 Testing: Yoshi, Sonic, Bowser, Mr. G&W, Marth, Luigi, everyone else lol
 
 
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			| goml BR Member 
					Joined: Sat Aug 23, 2014 12:22 pm
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   |   powershielding windbox is sudden death for sheik. Its also like the only windbox that can be used as a legit gimp option its redonkulous 
 
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			| Wed Dec 31, 2014 8:36 pm | 
					
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			| 3ds1234 
					Joined: Tue Nov 18, 2014 3:36 pmPosts:  139Location:  Why do you want to know?Country:  Gender:  Male
					
						MGN Username:  knight223
					
						Currently Playing:  SSF2, Brave Frontier, Unison Leauge
					
				   |   I agree with Jaguar. I think vanish is fine and while powershielding it will take a stock it is really hard to predict where the wind is coming and when its coming so I think its fine the way it is. _________________
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 Secondaries: Marth
 Characters in training: Marth
 Characters I barley use: Marth
 
 
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			| goml BR Member 
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   |   But it really isn't.
 This move while not only having a redicously strong windbox is just a complete disaster against someone with good timing. This is not a good move for gimping due to the insane risk, and while I dont think Sheik needs a great recovery, this is a rediculous risk for her trying to get back on stage. This move needs to be fixed for her sake, not for everyone elses.
 
 
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			| Jammy BR Member 
					Joined: Tue Aug 12, 2014 4:08 amPosts:  888Country:  Gender:  Male
					
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				   |   It's not really broken or hugely detrimental from experience, it's just a weird, janky thing that should never have existed. _________________ Youtube         Twitch                      <insert giant anime gif here>  
 
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			| Darklink401 
					Joined: Wed Jan 21, 2015 8:57 amPosts:  15Country:     |   I've been using sheik recently, and I have a slight question. In the latest tier list I could find (I know tier lists aren't everything, but it IS kinda weird) Sheik is in C tier, when I find her to be very fast and overwhelming, as her Melee counterpart. Her sliding utilts can combo into each other at low percents, and her fair has great kill potential...so like...why is she so low? O.o or has she been buffed since? _________________ 
 
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			| TheCodeSamurai BR Member 
					Joined: Sat Mar 22, 2014 2:14 pmPosts:  2075Country:  Gender:  Anime Girl
					
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				   |   Sheik last demo had problems with the top tiers, and wasn't as good as she is this demo. I think her tier placement will be higher this time around, probably A tier or close. 
 
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			| Darklink401 
					Joined: Wed Jan 21, 2015 8:57 amPosts:  15Country:     |   I would assume so. She's insane x.x At least, from what I could see.
 What's the deal with her up B though? I come back from playing SSB4, where her up B is SUPER strong, and this one just seems...weak?  or rather, does it even have a hitbox? O.o
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			| Shine-chan 
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				   |   I think it would be better for Sheik if they removed the windbox from reappearing and just made the start up stronger again.
 Also what's some good uses for sheik's dair?
 
 
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			| Darklink401 
					Joined: Wed Jan 21, 2015 8:57 amPosts:  15Country:     |   I just did a best 3 out of 5 match with the CPU. Was pretty good. But I did NOT know the CPU Fox was that good x.x My controller messed up a couple times during the match, I think (if I run off the stage, you know why XD) Any comments or critiques would be nice, since I've just started playin this game and it's quite a bit different, physics-wise, from Smash 4._________________ 
 
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			| Jammy BR Member 
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				   |   Dair is really really good for techchasing fastfallers, it seems to cover a couple of options at once cause the hitbox is out for so long.  it does a lot of damage too, and if they DI the right way it combos into a fair._________________ Youtube         Twitch                      <insert giant anime gif here>  
 
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