Pachino is by no means conf. town: I just don't want to take the risk of lynching a vengeful townie and then shooting town, because we lose.

Arthur and Lightning, due to their interactions with Shoop, are out of the picture. So is Flash and Flame due to flavor. Also, Arthur has made efforts to contribute, which Thomas hasn't.

This leaves Blood and Thomas. Willing to bet if Thomas flips scum Blood will.

If Pachino is lynched, I want him to shoot Thomas.

Pachino claim makes no sense. Why would the mayor even shoot back? If you're really afraid of taking a risk like this against a claim that is so ludicrous and against someone who has shown no attempt to help the town then you've got the wrong idea here.

Also Arthur is still in the realm of possibility when it comes to being a mafia. Yes his interaction with shoop makes him look innocent, but his actions throughout the rest of the game don't. If you really base your arguement over one moment in the game as oppose to the whole then I really don't know what to say.You can go ahead and say he's dumb town, but the fact is that he still isn't out of the red just yet.

You know what though,fine. If Pachino is town then he can shoot Thomas. Like I said before I was okay with either Arthur or Thomas. If both you and lighting (two of the most town read people in the game) want a specific peraon then by all means go for it.

2x Bulletproof. We've ran into a situation like this before.

Every time we run into someone with a vest, they turn out to be scum. (ie Shoop, Deph, Felipe).

That's why I don't believe it.




Because getting "results" that are redundant are totally helping the town.

For the same reason as how being nice to someone can protect them from getting removed from MG(MG Mafia 12), how a gun detect lied(MG Mafia 9) and how an exploding orb does not die after exploding on someone(MG Mafia 8).

And we IMMEDIATELY lose if Pachino shoots a townie: will be willing to lynch him in LyLo, though.

Arthur's interactions are scummy in regards to the red scumteam, who are dead so...

@Thomas:Flavor justification ftw. The mayor could be invincible, as he's the FRICKIN' MAYOR.
Not just results: he's also got a case on Blood and his views on everything: that's more than you.

Arthur's interaction through out the whole game has been scummy in general. Not just to mafia either, in fact wasn't that the reason everyone cracked down on him at the beginning of the game?

Also when I say a major shooting someone doesn't make sense, I'm not talking about logic. I'm talking about role to ability. At least all those roles you listed correspond to their abilities. A mayor shooting someone as he gets lynched doesn't correspond to his ability at all. It's like saying I'm a demon who protects people. It's just doesn't make sense.
I also don't see how the mayor would be invincible in any case. A mayor is simply a leader that regulates the town he's given not a body built guard or something. In other words your flavor justification makes no sense.

Which is why I think that you should lynch Pachino. If you're right, we lynched the second-to-last mafioso and I'll honestly reconsider everything you've said today. If you're wrong then there's a good chance that at least one of his lynchers is scum. And out of everyone else, Thomas is my top suspect.

Blood, I'm continuing to ask, what was that super-important information on day 2 that you couldn't reveal to us? And remember when you said for us to just lynch you because you wouldn't be active?

It happened while me and terra were dead. The only reason why DJ kept on reminding everyone not to talk when you have died was because terra kept on pming me asking for my role, him being convinced that the game was over for him. In those pms he told me his role and ask for mine. The reason I couldn't tell anyone this was because DJ thought it would brake the game. If you don't believe me ask terra yourself.

I would also just like to clarify that the pm don't even matter now because terra has already used his role and I still insisted that my role was town in those pms.

The leader of the town. The guy.
If anything I could see governor, but eh, vengeful works too.
And I don't know about the BP, but eh.
Lemme give you more things where flavor didn't make sense:
My role, Terra, could direct a question to the moderator even though I only ask questions to the populace.
Cactus(role in 12) could being a random person in due to him creating a character in sense.

TL;DR-Flavor doesn't always make sense.

Blood's telling the truth: did reveal my role, but never quoted the role PM.

I want you guys to think about the circumstances in which Blood died:
Null read by close to everyone, except me, where I put him as null-leaning-scum.
Suspicion by me near the end of D1.
You were prob. killed by mafia thinking they'll land another hit on scum, because Ramsey and KA, who're others top scumspects are easy lynches, and Blood is not as much.

Q.E.D. He is scum.

We can lynch Pachino in LyLo: if he's lying right now, it's a scum lynch, but if he's telling the truth and hits town, then we lose.
Meanwhile, in LyLo, if he's scum, great, but if he's town, at least he can take his shot without wasting a mislynch(because we don't have any).
Apologies if it isn't clear enough, but it's best to save Pach for tomorrow.

Meanwhile, Thomas is scum because of reasons mentioned previously, which still stand. Confirmation PM especially is scum fakeclaiming: that is enough for a lynch, at least for me.

Arthur, Pach, Lightning, F&F sheep me pl0x.

If Blood and Thomas are scum, like you think, then we have the entire scum team right there. I still see no reason to lynch Pachino.

Terra you're missing my point when I meant pachino's flavor doesn't make sense.
His role of governor doesn't make sense in correspondence to his ability. You are a journalist and your ability to tell the town about something in a public domain is resembling of a journalist. However a governor/mayor shouldn't have any bullet proof vest nor any vengeance ability (In this case a double vote ability would make much more sense.). Thats what I mean.

Technically, I supposed his vengeance ability would be shouting out somebody's name to the crowd, and one of them vigilante-type folks would go after them. As for a bulletproof vest, wouldn't you wear one if you were the head of a town that was filled with Mafia, making you a high-profile target?

Voting Pachino: Lightning, Blood, F & F
Voting Thomas: Terra
Voting Blood: King Arthur

With 7 alive, it takes 4 votes to reach a lynch.

Pachino, you are not currently listed as V/LA. If you do not post within 24 hours, I will look for a replacement. If I can not find one within another 24 hours, you will be mod killed.

Yes, because when I think of mayors I don't think of just him wearing one bullet proof vest I see him wearing 2 bullet proof vest.
And in case sarcasm really doesn't translate well into the internet that was sarcasm. Once again the ability doesn't translate well with the role itself. Mayors wear suits and are usually protected by body guards. They have a power over the town folk and the way it's ran. If were really gonna take into account that each role can have a mind of it's own, and they're ability is determined by simulated thoughts then why doesn't the cop have a bullet proof vest? Why doesn't anyone has a bullet proof vest. After all they don't want to die. Do you get my point, you can't just make a role have a certain abilities based on simulated thought, it has to correspond to what the role is known for.
The vengeance thing is possible, but since WE are the entire town I find it unlikely that the mayor would have some secret person hidden somewhere.