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You see the thing about Arthur is we don't know if he is a cop yet or not.
If you think about it from the very beginning he's only been stating the obvious."yeah Ramsey is innocent" five seconds after Ramsey uses his revival ability. Then the next time he actually gets a result it's "oh I didn't have enough time to think so I picked terra even though his innocence was already almost proven days ago." the rest is the old excuse like I didn't get a pm or I was role blocked. I mean we really don't know if he is a cop at all. He still is in the realm of being a mafia.

Also check your writing you got pachino and F&F mixed up with each other(seriously pull yourself together man.)
Although I do agree with the F&F part, vengeful mafia seems very unlikely in this set up(still possible though.)
And yeah Pachino is flavored, so what? That's really the only thing that sets him as innocent to you? If that's really how you think then you've seriously lost it man.
Now don't get me wrong Thomas is still on my scum radar as well, but as of now pachino, and in fact, Arthur, seem to be just as scummy as Thomas.


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I agree with Terra on the Pachino thing. If he is telling the truth, then Thomas should probably be his target.

And if we lynch Pachino and he is lying, then we would be lynching scum anyway.


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Lightning wrote:
I agree with Terra on the Pachino thing. If he is telling the truth, then Thomas should probably be his target.

And if we lynch Pachino and he is lying, then we would be lynching scum anyway.


Either Thomas or Arthur should be Pachino's target, more likely Arthur imo

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Mr. Flash & Flame wrote:
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I agree with Terra on the Pachino thing. If he is telling the truth, then Thomas should probably be his target.

And if we lynch Pachino and he is lying, then we would be lynching scum anyway.


Either Thomas or Arthur should be Pachino's target, more likely Arthur imo

Actually both of them are equally scummy, pachino can choose anyone he wants.


Tue Feb 26, 2013 1:15 am
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Frankly, if you listened to me it'll be a town win. I'm that confident, and I'm not crazy.

Let's be honest here: Pachino is probably not lying about being vengeful: town have no reason to fakeclaim, and if he's scum he'll lie anyway.

If Pachino is lynched, he should aim for Thomas.

My main points against Thomas:
Strategic lurking.
Lack of content.
Too much sheeping of people: far too little content.
Confirmation PM is probably scum fakeclaiming.

Arthur is probably dumbtown. At least he's trying to post something.

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Since Pachino replaced Luke (Thanks for the reminder), here's one thing that I have that makes me think he's town now.


KYUUBIT'S ORIGINAL PERSON TO LYNCH (He stated that this one was given to him in the role PM) WAS LUKE


Thomas and Blood seem to be the scum team, F&F seems to be a legit townie to me, albeit his reads are making me a bit suspicious, and honestly, while the "White Mage's Apprentice" role kinda makes the nurse role for Thomas seem legit, the way that everybody he protected has died says otherwise.

If we lynch Thomas, we risk losing the only doctor, but we have a huge risk if we DON'T lynch him.

Vote: Thomas

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Actually, wait.

Blood, you forgot about that night where both teams tried to shoot me dead.

Unvote

Vote: Blood

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King Arthur wrote:
Actually, wait.

Blood, you forgot about that night where both teams tried to shoot me dead.

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Okay firstly I'd like to remind YOU that Kyuubit chooses his target, there's no specific lynchee in other words pachino is not clear from your reasoning.

Secondly
??? When was there indication that both scum teams tried to kill you on the same night? Yes we heard two bullet on one night or something like that, but there's no actual reasoning that points both those kills to you. One could have been blocked and it was aiming at someone else. For all we know you can be part of the first scum team, while the second one was trying to kill you constantly because they didn't actually know you were lying.

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I don't see how exactly me and Thomas are buddying. I never agreed with his claim, in fact I questioned it and asked terra for his opinion. If anything it seemed like me and terra were buddying for a little.

Really Arthur you're only on terra side because he has accused two people of being mafia something that could benefit you extremely if you are one yourself.

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Those reason do apply(except once again I'd like to know where Thomas was sheeping)
The only problem is pachino is also lurking, has less content, and just claimed a role where it'll make us not want to lynch him. His claim also includes bullet proof, an ability which has been seen on two of the mafia's we have lynched.
At this point you just seem so out of your mind. Your narrowing your vision so much that you can't see pachino being scum at all. In your mind he's is confirmed townie, after hearing all those words about not confirming anyone until they really are confirmed at the beginning of the game I'm surprised you're starting to think this way.


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Blood wrote:
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Actually, wait.

Blood, you forgot about that night where both teams tried to shoot me dead.

Unvote

Vote: Blood

Okay firstly I'd like to remind YOU that Kyuubit chooses his target, there's no specific lynchee in other words pachino is not clear from your reasoning.

Give me a half hour to find the post.

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King Arthur wrote:
Blood wrote:
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Actually, wait.

Blood, you forgot about that night where both teams tried to shoot me dead.

Unvote

Vote: Blood

Okay firstly I'd like to remind YOU that Kyuubit chooses his target, there's no specific lynchee in other words pachino is not clear from your reasoning.

Give me a half hour to find the post.

Dude Kyuubit won without lynching Pachino. That's all the proof you need.


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King Kyuubit wrote:
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actually, him saying that he can't say how he got the information makes that more likely, in my opinion


Wtf are you talking about, thats in my book, an Investigative role, if Brik is Watcher or Tracker (And thats the most posible case, if you see his posts) one of them is lying.

what part of "in my opinion" did you not get?

or do you not understand that it's possible for my opinion and your opinion to be different?

Found this, still looking for that post, but I remember it said something along the lines of Kyuubit needing 2 points to win, gaining 1 point for who he chose with his night action, and 2 points for getting his main lynch done.

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But uhh yeah, Blood, what about not being able to give us information?

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King Kyuubit wrote:
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Kyuubit, could you please full-claim, with the official name of your role, so that we know you aren't lying.

Sure thing.

I'm an Extraterrestrial Being. Following the whole thing with Cactus being inactive and getting replaced all, I was given the ability to select one person each night. If they get lynched, I get a point. If I get two points, I win.

I haven't used it, though.

I'm assuming this has something to do with how I've lost my night action?

King Kyuubit wrote:
Because that was my original win condition, and it still stood in addition to the new one.


I was searching his posts specifically, but his original win condition was to lynch Luke/Pachino.

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King Kyuubit wrote:
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Wait, wtf, iirc we confirmed that the alignment didnt change with the ability swap. That means kyubit cannot win now?

The only thing I lost was my ability to pick somebody for the lynch prediction.

I'm assuming my two win conditions (lynching Luke and getting two points from lynch predictions) are still there, since I wasn't told my win condition had changed.

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I really doubt Arthur is scum.

If you saw how Shoop acted before I claimed, it doesn't look like they're on the same team.


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