Something that has been bothering me:

I think it's important to keep in mind that Axel isn't new by any stretch of the imagination. He has taken part in his fair share of games, both here and on Mafiascum. He isn't very good at the game, so he makes "newbie mistakes", but we can't allow ourselves to continue letting him hide behind the shield of "being new" in the same way that we might allow a legitimately new player to slip up a few times without pouncing on them. Let's forget his history and analyze his posts for what they really are: wild, overly aggressive swings at the air.

I'm on my phone at the moment, but I will respond to DJ. I haven't forgotten.

Ok, v/la begins now, to wednesday. My mom is also gonna be having surgery, so please pray she recovers quickly. Thankyou.

I might be able to get on and read what is said, but that's about it.

Okay, I'm getting pretty tired of your frequent v/la'ing.

Good luck on that.

Oh boy, big post.


Early post is early. yes this one was middle-of the road, I agree. It isn't so much the meat of the conversation as it was the ice-breaker, in a way, if you would.

You know when someone gives you a read, and it looks pretty Town-like, but you're like "can't tell if Town or just playing really well as Mafia"? That was kind of my reaction to Geno's. Because, like, he plays pretty well on both sides IIRC.

Ah. This one. I guess I received a lot of flak for this, but to date, I still don't see why, and I suppose I haven't given much serious attention to the accusation.

Given the fact that in the previous pages he seems almost certain that Geno was Mafia, and now seems less so, I just wanted to pin down where exactly his rating of Geno was. For future reference, if nothing else.

Yes, I did. Him claiming pretty much put a lot of things back to square 1. That and I'm not sure what you're implying.

No that's not what I said though. I was voting for him because apparently people have such a difficult time reading him. Like, as I said, how people vote for inactive people because inactive people don't give Read material.

135, could you please explain why you think setting things back to square one is a productive end to a day?

Axel's Lynch-meter went back to square 1. As in, we kind of had some sort of momentum, but then he claimed and that was kind of that.

However, there was a lot of stuff produced in the process, even though in a way we went around in a circle with Axel in particular. These "stuff" could be used later for reads and references.

No, it didn't. His claim is a particularly safe claim (being a minor character from what I've seen) and the main questions upon him are still unsolved.

If anything, it was a flat line untill now. Axel was Axel, and stayed as Axel, and we're gaining information on him quickly. He didn't go "Back to square 1", he went up a few more squares. As 194 mentioned, your posts have been jumping around with your viewpoint, and I'm far from liking it.

So, so far.

You're inconsistent, and think the only thing close to a town-tell from Axel is scummy.

Vote: 135

^Yeah seriously, it's only Day 1 and this is like the third time you've gone V/LA. Either you can actually play the game, or you can just replace out.

194 has brought up some good points about 135. 135's kind of been jumping all over the place and not really giving any clear answers as to who he thinks of to be scum or town, instead he's just saying they could be either or. He's also suggesting that we end the day even though we still have a marginal amount of time before the deadline. I'm not going to vote him just yet but I definitely got my eye on him.

Three days isn't exactly marginal. I'm not sure how to feel about the 135 situation, because while they could be scum slips I guess as far as being center of the road, I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility that he's town either, just asking so-so questions and not having the best reads.

Maybe he should character claim as well?

Yeah but it's still enough time for people to get on here and post.

It's more of a null-scum read on him. Not nearly enough to convince me. I don't think he should claim right now in case he's a power role or something.

(Sorry for the double post)

Can we have a vote count?

Geno, what's with the whole claiming thing?

Like, I can understand with Axel, but imo 135 hasn't done anything to warrant a claim from him.