and i think he superior in a meta knight mu because the ability he copies gives him a move that he can easily enter with and a huge speed boost

Copy ability is can help him win matchups? Okay.
MK's special move has like 0 uses, there's really no reason to use it. (Just use UpB?!)
Also, his copy ability is not that helpful. Look at BBM's bomb copy ability, look at Fox's and look at Chibi's. There's really no reason to use them. Copying one ability can help, but that means getting rid of a few combos, and the ability to suicide :/
It is helpful, but only for some characters like ZSS, Naruto and Wario.. (I said some btw)

https://www.mediafire.com/folder/3jfm6z ... /Documents
you got to download the file and look at it with the ssf2 player lol but meta knights ability works different for kirby for some reason
and copying someone with a projectile can help with spacing for kirby(which he really needs)( and and i don't even do the suicide kill with him thats for noobs lol but kirby has a lot of options other than inhale+copy+shorthop+sideb(if thats all the combos you said copying would take from him is)
and you said copying is not helpful which leads me to believe you have not played kirby much because his neutral game is not the best and he has no projectile IMO believe copy ability will benefit him with 17/28 chars.

I said it's not THAT helpful. The move itself is good, but the copying ability isn't all that great.
Some of the moves are a bit glitchy.

Also, Inhale to SideB is not a combo. Inhale to Bair (not sure how they do it) is a combo if you time it right.

Does star-spit>bair work on marth or can he up b out of it?

any other characters that can theoretically escape the combo?

Well its hard to do the spit to hair technique on March since and his up b and fair seems to come out faster than Kirby's bair. I think that Zelda might be able to escape that combo too.

Spit > Bair is guaranteed on all the cast. You should notice you hit it right when you hit them while they are still a star.

I wasn't aware characters could be attacked while still being a star, nice to know its a true combo then.

Excuse me everyone, but I have a few questions about Stone.

- Does anyone have a full list of what Kirby can turn into so far?
- When he uses the Landmaster, is it me, or does it seem to last a...shorter time than his other forms?...
- Is there any extra damage done when he uses his "special Stones"?
- Does anyone know when percentage of a chance he has of getting the "Special Stones"?
- Also, please remind me, as it has been a while since I've played SSF2, when in "mini-Landmaster" form, Kirby CAN move with it, right? I forgot if he could jump and whatnot. Again, I haven't played SSF2 in, like, a year and a half, so...

I'm sorry for all these questions. I hope I'm not annoying you all by asking all of this.

I'll answer these as best I can:

1. I don't know the full list, but here's some: Rock, Landmaster, Block, Majora's Mask Moon, etc.
2. I believe it is shorter
3. I don't think so
4. Low
5. You can move left or right, but you can't jump

The probability for each type of rock is:

Normal: 17/80 = 21.25%
Weight: 17/80 = 21.25%
Garbage block (Panel del Pon): 17/80 = 21.25%
Spikes: 17/80 = 21.25%
Thwomp: 13/100 = 13%
Moon (Majora's Mask): 1/100 = 1%
Landmaster: 1/100 = 1%

Wow, thank you all. I really appreciate everyone's responses. It's greatly appreciated! Also, if no one minds me asking, just what IS Kirby like in the most recent patch of v0.9b? Should he be buffed come SSF2 Beta? Should he be nerfed?

Well Kirby is pretty light making it easy to kill em and has a slow walk speed making it hard to approach; he has to play patiently against projectile users or defensive players. People hate him for his gimmicks such as his swallowcide and RKO throws (using bthrow or fthrow at the edge of the stage). Kirby depends on baiting people to him and then punishing in this game.

Its probably going to get even worse in beta :3