Wow.

The combo potential for this is insane. I'm impressed.

Strike Raid is even more useful now.

Also, Flow Cancels were known by a lot of us.

Z confirmed best Sora.

Flow Cancel is just aiming Flowmotion into the gorund, right? On another note, DSmash apparently cancels out Rasenshuriken. Dont take my word for it, but it seems that way.

No Flow Cancel is canceling out an input with another input while in flowmotion. For example, I could hit you with a upwards FM, but then cancel it out with a Downwards input, changing the move entirely and the trajectory it would usually send you (Upwards -> Downwards spikes btw).

https://gfycat.com/FlimsyImmediateAfricanaugurbuzzard (Threw in the Strike raid cancel for the fun of it)

But what you're referring to is the Pseudo Wavedash.


For the love of I. AM. NOT.

Look out, guys. If this keeps up Sora is going to become a good character. : P

Deny all you want, but you are the closest thing we've got. You're advancing the meta, and you've discovered a tech that's actually really useful.

You're making Sora much better. That means you're a pretty good contender for the best.

Z's discoveries are awesome, and he's awesome for discovering them, but "advancing the meta" does not equal being the best at X character. That's what I think he's getting at.

Couldn't have said it better myself. Most people knew about this stuff already, but never mentioned any of these techs to the public. So that's why I decided to do just that.

I kinda wanna see some buffs for Soras grab game (out of all things)...

- More grab range. Its terrible.
- DThrow is fine imo, maybe a bit lower base KB for better CGs at low %.
- UThrow either a combo starter or a kill throw below 220%. Atm its pretty useless.
- BThrow buries for a small amount of time depending on damage, removing the useless freezing effect.
- FThrow... I dunno about that one, it sets up edgeguards. Maybe 2% more damage?

Yes, Im aware that not every move has to be good, but this still nags me.

So ever since X8, I've been in the lab with Sora cause of how well I did against Kyoz and Arsenec with him, even though I lost to them. Down throw has been the throw that I mainly use with Sora, but I found out that up throw can be useful too because it can combo into thunder. Just something new I learned today about him. I hope to find new things about him as I play with him too. Of course, I will give the info over here.

btw I'm aware up throw can combo fast fallers like Fox and big characters like DK

Still waiting for him to be top tier again, just like 0.9a.

So I fought a random recently and he used flowmotion, but this one looks at bit different. I think it's a upward flowmotion cancel to forward, but I'm not exactly sure. Anyone know how to do this? I tried do this myself, but so far I haven't been able to pull it off.

one of the sora mains in my local area (I play offline) does some similar jank where he uses the forwards flowmotion and turns it around. He told me how to do it, and so I tested it out on what you described, and it worked. It was actually the other way around from what you described, you start with a forwards flowmotion and then go into the upwards flowmotion This probably means there is a ton of other jank with flowmotion. I don't know exactly how to perform this, I just have the idea.

how to do:
Start forwards flowmotion and hold forwards. Have it hit the opponent. Right when Sora thrusts the sword, reset the stick to neutral (don't hold anything on the keyboard) and then hold Up. I actually don't know If you have to reset the stick to neutral on a controller because I'm too lazy to test it. I'm pretty sure you just can't be pressing both left and right at the same time.

Ah I see. Thanks for letting me know, I'll try practicing this now. Also I'm going to guess this Sora player you speak of is SonyBubbleMint, I've played him before when we met in the McLeod twitch chat during apex

yeah, it is SonyBubblemint. he hasn't been on the forum (or maybe even played) for months, but I'm going to try and get him to attend my offline weekly series that starts in september (it will be streamed!) which hopefully will make him more active.

also how exactly did you know who it was