Forum rules
Anyone is free to post new topics here now. However please limit yourself to 3 maximum posts of your own per month, and absolutely NO debate topics!
Also please be mindful of what articles others post and try to show some variety. Posting multiple articles that are too similar could disinterest people from your topic.
Author |
Message |
Belth
Joined: Tue Aug 12, 2008 10:45 am Posts: 4454
Gender: Male
Skype: belth666
|
If you have no other alternatives, go ahead and steal. Just don't get caught.
Honestly, if you're backed into a corner, it's more than likely a necessity such as food or water; the store isn't going to miss it that much.
|
Mon Dec 28, 2009 1:52 am |
|
|
Gold
Joined: Sat Aug 23, 2008 3:10 am Posts: 2601 Location: Australia - Sydney
Gender: Male
Currently Playing: Ninja Gaiden III
|
Are you saying that (IRL) if you were talking to a friend and they complained that they wanted to watch/listen/etc. some movie/music/etc., you wouldn't tell them just to download it and not worry? (You might say no, but that's what everyone I know says). Also subtlety has its place and if you want something taken, something that goes against what people have been doing for the last 2 millennium, you are going to have to make things a bit less subtle. HOWEVER, that said as well, I've been thinking about it, and I think that what was said was wrong, they should not be stealing. Worst comes to the worst, they get the dole or beg. Their standard of living may significantly drop, but stealing isn't the only way. Heck, people in China get in a month the same amount of money as it takes to buy a cup of coffee.
|
Mon Dec 28, 2009 4:19 am |
|
|
Hakker
Legendary Ghost
Joined: Mon Aug 11, 2008 6:42 am Posts: 12630 Location: Belgium Country:
Gender: Male
Currently Playing: Final Fantasy XI, Left 4 Dead 2
|
| | | | |~DVDV~| wrote: Are you saying that (IRL) if you were talking to a friend and they complained that they wanted to watch/listen/etc. some movie/music/etc., you wouldn't tell them just to download it and not worry? (You might say no, but that's what everyone I know says). Also subtlety has its place and if you want something taken, something that goes against what people have been doing for the last 2 millennium, you are going to have to make things a bit less subtle. HOWEVER, that said as well, I've been thinking about it, and I think that what was said was wrong, they should not be stealing. Worst comes to the worst, they get the dole or beg. Their standard of living may significantly drop, but stealing isn't the only way. Heck, people in China get in a month the same amount of money as it takes to buy a cup of coffee. | | | | |
You're still missing the point. Excusing it =/= doing it. There's world of difference between saying "yeah, I do it, and you should to" and "It's alright to do it". You may have reasons, you may have motives, but you never have an excuse.
_________________Play Smite with me? (It's like LoL or Dota, but less frustrating)"Jesus promised the end of all wicked people. Odin promised the end of all ice giants. I don't see many ice giants around."
|
Mon Dec 28, 2009 6:30 am |
|
|
Villerar
Joined: Tue Nov 17, 2009 1:26 am Posts: 648
Gender: Anime Girl
|
Then technically, the priest is not excusing it, but rationalising it and placing it into proportion to our shortcomings. That said, it is a matter of fact much food is thrown away; this has reasons from being spoiled to preventing saturation of the market, but I doubt somebody who qualifies as destitute can produce that much effective demand.
_________________Liberal Socialist Mudraking Bastard (Averted, not performing any journalism)
|
Mon Dec 28, 2009 3:37 pm |
|
|
Kittenpuncher
Joined: Sat Oct 11, 2008 9:16 pm Posts: 12685 Country:
Gender: Male
Waifu: I'm married
|
| | | | |~DVDV~| wrote: Are you saying that (IRL) if you were talking to a friend and they complained that they wanted to watch/listen/etc. some movie/music/etc., you wouldn't tell them just to download it and not worry? (You might say no, but that's what everyone I know says). Also subtlety has its place and if you want something taken, something that goes against what people have been doing for the last 2 millennium, you are going to have to make things a bit less subtle. HOWEVER, that said as well, I've been thinking about it, and I think that what was said was wrong, they should not be stealing. Worst comes to the worst, they get the dole or beg. Their standard of living may significantly drop, but stealing isn't the only way. Heck, people in China get in a month the same amount of money as it takes to buy a cup of coffee. | | | | |
Actually I would tell him to download it.
_________________ Meow /l、 ゙(゚、 。 7 l、゙ ~ヽ じしf_, )ノ
|
Tue Dec 29, 2009 12:20 am |
|
|
Gold
Joined: Sat Aug 23, 2008 3:10 am Posts: 2601 Location: Australia - Sydney
Gender: Male
Currently Playing: Ninja Gaiden III
|
That's what I mean! You would be encouraging them to nick it
|
Tue Dec 29, 2009 2:03 am |
|
|
Onaru
Joined: Mon Mar 23, 2009 2:28 am Posts: 2040 Location: Singapore
Gender: Male
Currently Playing: None
|
I would tell them to suicide Since lesser people=more oxygen for the rest
_________________3DS friend code:3780-9059-0754
|
Tue Dec 29, 2009 2:12 am |
|
|
Kittenpuncher
Joined: Sat Oct 11, 2008 9:16 pm Posts: 12685 Country:
Gender: Male
Waifu: I'm married
|
Like I said, I'm a hypocrite Even so, I'm not making some s*** excuse. I won't deny it.
_________________ Meow /l、 ゙(゚、 。 7 l、゙ ~ヽ じしf_, )ノ
|
Tue Dec 29, 2009 2:13 am |
|
|
Villerar
Joined: Tue Nov 17, 2009 1:26 am Posts: 648
Gender: Anime Girl
|
The priest also does not deny that stealing is stealing, nor that it is not the most gracious option on Earth.
_________________Liberal Socialist Mudraking Bastard (Averted, not performing any journalism)
|
Tue Dec 29, 2009 6:26 am |
|
|
Gold
Joined: Sat Aug 23, 2008 3:10 am Posts: 2601 Location: Australia - Sydney
Gender: Male
Currently Playing: Ninja Gaiden III
|
The lesser of a million evils sort of thing
|
Tue Dec 29, 2009 6:21 pm |
|
|
Kittenpuncher
Joined: Sat Oct 11, 2008 9:16 pm Posts: 12685 Country:
Gender: Male
Waifu: I'm married
|
He's trying to excuse it.
_________________ Meow /l、 ゙(゚、 。 7 l、゙ ~ヽ じしf_, )ノ
|
Wed Dec 30, 2009 12:35 am |
|
|
Villerar
Joined: Tue Nov 17, 2009 1:26 am Posts: 648
Gender: Anime Girl
|
No, he isn't. Just read the article. He is not saying it is not a crime, nor that it is not dreadful. He is just saying it is understandable and a method to survive, while barely affecting large companies (contrary to their claims).
_________________Liberal Socialist Mudraking Bastard (Averted, not performing any journalism)
|
Wed Dec 30, 2009 5:30 am |
|
|
Hakker
Legendary Ghost
Joined: Mon Aug 11, 2008 6:42 am Posts: 12630 Location: Belgium Country:
Gender: Male
Currently Playing: Final Fantasy XI, Left 4 Dead 2
|
Thus, the excuse. Heck, it's one of the five typical excuses used by delinquents, denial of blame by saying there is no victim.
_________________Play Smite with me? (It's like LoL or Dota, but less frustrating)"Jesus promised the end of all wicked people. Odin promised the end of all ice giants. I don't see many ice giants around."
|
Wed Dec 30, 2009 6:15 am |
|
|
Villerar
Joined: Tue Nov 17, 2009 1:26 am Posts: 648
Gender: Anime Girl
|
That is not an excuse, that is a fact. It is a fact the companies themselves deny that truth, so they are the ones making excuses here. You are also contorting views by saying that the claims is that there is no victim; that is your own invention. There is a victim, but the victim is barely harmed compared to the harms inflicted by itself. If your example in your previous post is an excuse, what he does would not be an excuse.
_________________Liberal Socialist Mudraking Bastard (Averted, not performing any journalism)
|
Wed Dec 30, 2009 8:28 am |
|
|
Kittenpuncher
Joined: Sat Oct 11, 2008 9:16 pm Posts: 12685 Country:
Gender: Male
Waifu: I'm married
|
A victim that is "barely harmed" is barely a victim.
_________________ Meow /l、 ゙(゚、 。 7 l、゙ ~ヽ じしf_, )ノ
|
Wed Dec 30, 2009 10:24 pm |
|
|
Who is online |
Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest |
|
You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot post attachments in this forum
|
|