Just decided that I would post my personal tier list and explanations for each character.
Top tier

S
1. Meta Knight
2. Lloyd
3. Pikachu



A+
4. Naruto
5. Marth
6. Fox
7. Zero Suit Samus

A
8. Tails
9. Black Mage
10. Link
11. Zelda

Mid Tier

A-
12. Captain Falcon
13. Yoshi
14. Goku


B+
15. Sheik
16. Bomberman
17. Donkey Kong
18. Ness

B
19. Mario
20. Ichigo
21. Peach
22. Sora
23. Wario

Low tier

B-
24. Samus
25. Jigglypuff
26. Mega Man
27. Sonic
28. Chibi Robo
29. Kirby

Any thoughts?

What makes Kirby Bottom #1 in your opinion?

His neutral game is pretty unsafe against a lot of characters. His lack of speed on both the ground and air along with subpar range makes it hard to approach. Even if you tried to use a more passive play style, characters that out range him can still get in; for a character of his weight class, this is not good considering the fact that he dies earlier than most characters. His main issue is that he has a risky neutral game, but other characters can run a relatively safe one. This might seem like a nitpick, but for a character with 5 jumps, his horizontal recovery isn't good and he has no options to extend it (the vertical recovery isn't amazing either); that makes him easier to edgeguard than both Puff and MK. Kirby has to take more risk to run offense than other characters and his defense has some holes (He only has B-air and Up B OoS is risky; while Puff can use B-air, F-air and N-air in her camp game; just for a comparison). He can edgeguard if he manages to get you off stage pretty well so he has that.

His main flaw is that he has to play a risky neutral against most of the cast. He doesn't lose every matchup, but he doesn't win many (if any at all). Tbf most MUs he lose are 55-45 or 60-40, so he is certainly viable.

A BR member says my mains are #1. inb4 people think I'm a tier wh*re.
What makes you think Marth is A+ tier and BBM A-?

I really like this tier list. Each character seems like they're in the correct spots, and nothing out of the ordinary stands out.

Do you agree with Wario being Low-Mid Tier?

I really like this, it's probably the only one I've seen a tierlist where I have to go over it twice or more to look for something I'll like to change. Still the only thing I would do is making DK= A-, BBM= B, and MM= B. Everything else looks very accurate to me. For now...

What caused you to place Ichigo so low? I thought that you were in favour of him in high tier

@Lunary:

The A+ characters are almost at the top of the cast, but have one or more exploitable flaws that keep them down (the ones above them

I feel that Marth's main issue is predictability. His issues are that he's not versatile when it comes to his options. Sure F-air and N-air are good approach options, but they are his only options for approaching in the air (RAR B-air can work, but it's too risky) and they aren't safe if spaced poorly. On the ground, his options are dash cancel D-tilt or grab (dash attack is too risky). Due to this, characters with a good dash dance can bait him out easily. Marth also has the issue of having trouble comboing into kill moves if your percent is too high (sort of like Falcon, but not as much), so he has rely on reads for kills at that points. His recovery is pretty average, so he's not too difficult to edgeguard). Marth doesn't really have too many problems (his flaws are all workable); but if your predictable and fall for bait, then you won't be getting wins.

The A tier characters are just really good, but the weakest of the top tier.

Black Mage has many things going for him, but his worst issues are no ground approaches (which is workable), his light weight, poor ground speed, and his horizontal kill options outside of B-air (which doesn't have the best range) either won't kill till higher percents or they are aren't 100% reliable (F-throw and B-throw, but his grab range sucks). So his horizontal kills rely on edgeguards; however, while he has some of the best edgeguard options in the game if a character can get past them, they can live for a long time and his weight and fall speed won't make him live that long. His recovery might have range because of his Up B, but that move is not difficult to intercept because you can see where he's going. As you can guess from reading, Black Mage struggles under pressure. He has defensive options, but he's does best from mid to close range, but if you get in on him, you can punish him really well. If you can out camp him, it also forces him to make mistakes and take more risk. He's gimmicky, so you have to make the most of your gimmicks or you won't win.

@DarkSwiftN: I stated that he was better than bottom 5. I was going to place him higher than Mario, but then I decided that he was higher, because I felt that they are more consistent. Besides, being #20 in this game isn't too low, he's a solid mid tier (just at the lower end of it). The main reason for him being not being higher are bad matchups against every character in top tier and in other places. Non of his bad MUs are too terrible, I don't feel that any are worse than 60-40.

The thing that stood out most in this list (which is very good) is the placement of Black Mage. What weaknesses hold him back from the top tier?

Also, will this look similar to the actual BR Tier List?

I never said Ichi was bottom 5, I just said that he wasn't A+ Tier. (I know the thread you're talking about)

The gist is similar, and the top tiers are essentially rearranged from these high tiers, but it isn't the exact one.

DK and Sheik criminally underrated imo, but bearing in mind that tiers are far closer than other games this is the best tier list I've seen thus far. I also think falcon should be lower as he has bad matchups against almost every character above him, and several below him - this may be character bias however.

I'm not trying to be biased, but why is Peach lower than Ness?

Sheik and DK were originally higher, but I felt that there were other characters better than them (there were never higher than A-, bur never lower than B+, so it's fine). Falcon was originally 14-16, but I feel that online was clouding my judgement, so I played some offline and my opinion of him is higher. I feel that Falcon can be ranked between 12-16; At his true potential, he can be #12; at his worst, he's #16.


I feel that Ness is underrated by people in general. F-air and N-air are really good so are his other options. On the other hand, Peach still has some issues from last demo, but her bad match ups are better so she's much higher as a result. F-air being better also helps.

Overall, I just feel that the characters above her are more well rounded.