This is some real talk lol.

First of all, thats what I said. Female in US, male in Japan. Second, are you telling me that Smash isnt canon and then use Smash as "proof" against me?

We're determining Sheik's gender in Smash, so it makes sense to trust Smash a source on this. And think it's kinda weird to make a character's gender locale-specific, but I guess whatevs Nintendo. However, being as this game is called Super Smash Flash 2 and is not 大乱闘スマッシュブラザーズフラッシュ, I think we can safely say that Sheik is female.

Isnt Sheik just Zelda disguised? So she has to be female because when I ever I put on different clothes I am still the same gender

Thats the main question. Many think that this exactly is the case, however, others (as me) think that Zelda also changes her sex if she transforms. Mostly because there are some distince differences between their body that cannot be explained by other means (at least no in the Zelda universe). Some of those would be Sheik having a "typical" masculine build, which simply isnt possible achieve to as a female, like the overall body shape or other stuff. In OoT, Sheik also easily can jump a tree that has multiplude times higher than him/her. Later in the game, Zelda cannot a jump even close that height (although that might be part of disguise). I know I explained it pretty bad, but thats somewhat of an overview. Like I stated before (and will repeat forever as it seems), Sheik seems to be intended to be male by the evelopers of OoT (aka the developers as Sheik as a character), one example is the SSBB trophy stuff I mentioned earlier. I do believe that Sheik still is male as intended in Japan, but has been changed into female for Western regions because Western Culture has a problem with stuff like gender change.

I kinda feel like we all will get warned if we dont get back ontopic, so let me think of something...


Chain sucks. Period. If it at least was a tether as it was in Brawl it would have one minor use, but noooooo...

I feel like Chain needs to just be removed entirely. It's never been good and IMO never will be, so why not just replace it with anything, even if it has really limited utillity? Maybe it's a command grab that gives Sheik a tech-chase throw? Or a stall-then-fall? Or just a tether? Or a walljump? Even Bouncing Fish would be better: I hate moves that don't do anything.

The chain could easily be fixed if it wasn't brawl emulated, less lag, mutidirectional, more damage, and prehaps have it spike[Meant To say tipper], there fixed boom.

You aren't a good player if you don't pocket sheik

TIL basically all of the top 25 in the FCR is completely wrong.

What? Make it spike or meteor smash?

Brawl emulated?

Why not make it like Smash 4 side special or give her bouncing fish.

I don't want to give her Bouncing Fish because without it she's still annoyingly focused on quick kills off the side, and adding Bouncing Fish would make her even more focused on that kind of play.

I still don't see how Chain would be good if you made all those changes, because her normal kit is already amazing and essentially a disjointed slower bair still wouldn't be helpful.

Meant to sy tipper, don't know why i said spike, also no offense i don't like bounching fish and dislike the grenade cause we already had a character that used them.

That's the most contradictory statement I've read this week.

Bouncing Fish wouldn't be bad if we alter how it worked. Give it a shorter traveling distance and less KO potential to turn it into a combo extended. She'll flip forward, bounce off her target in any direction you're holding as they get knocked upward and she can go into any of her aerials, Needles, Vanish, for a variety of follow-ups.

I would rather it keep the KO potential.

I like Zalo's idea better tbh.
Like it'd be better if her back air, up air, and usmash got better KO potential.

Also having bouncing fish as a combo tool awould make Shiek pretty fun.