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MG Mafia XXI: Jobs Fair Mafia! [MAFIA WINS] 
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Hello, dear job applicants.

I've been assigned as your temporal supervisor, while your direct leader is away.

A vote count will arrive shortly. We will keep your resumes. We won't provide any paychecks yet.

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Thu Aug 14, 2014 10:12 pm
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Vote count 2:
Voting Nixter: Doqtor Kirby
Voting Panthera Leo: TheOneWhoKnocks
Voting Doqtor Kirby: Nixter, Pach, Dr. Geno
Voting Terra: DJ Wizard Cop
Voting rex: Maya Fey
Voting No lynch: rex
Voting Genis: Terra

With 12 alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch. Deadline August 25th.



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Thu Aug 14, 2014 10:38 pm
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Savy is on V/LA until Sunday night. He asked me to say that the set up is full reveal.

Panthera leo wrote:
DJ Wizard Cop wrote:
@Panthera: Please explain to me why, when I specifically asked you to answer a question you had previously dodged, you dodged it again by saying something irrelevant and I had to ask you a third time before you finally answered? (and a pretty poor answer at that)

Not sure where you're going with this one. I thought the answers were satisfactory on my part, but I'll keep going:

When you started the weird tunneling on Geno, no one was aware of the disclaimer until TOWK pointed it out. As you kept going with shoddy reasoning attacking him instead of me, your suspicious-ness became "clearer and clearer". I'm not sure why I needed to wait five posts or more to use that terminology; according to you clearer and clearer "works better if you wait till the 5th or so, IMO."

Thanks for clearing that up, but it's not what I asked.

Please explain to me why, when I specifically asked you to answer a question you had previously dodged, you dodged it again by saying something irrelevant.

Just to clear things up, I was expecting someone to find the disclaimer, but my post to get the game started wouldn't have worked if I had straight up put "kappa" at the end.

@Maya Fey: Could we get your reads on TOWK, Nixter and Terra please?

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I thought the answers were satisfactory on my part
I didn't dodge your question. If you weren't satisfied then that's really not on me anymore.

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@Doqtor Kirby: stop lurking so hard lol

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TheOneWhoKnocks wrote:
I'd also just like to highlight this sentence from his huge post:
Terra wrote:
Reads list unprompted is one of the most town things ever(unless it's from me, where it's a null tell)

Whoa wait how did I miss this?

Vote: Terra until he explains what this means

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DJ Wizard Cop wrote:
@Maya Fey: Could we get your reads on TOWK, Nixter and Terra please?

Oh no you don't. I read Terra's post about giving reads after being prompted!!

Nixter: Okay, so after his opening joke post and Doqtor Kirby's vote, Nixter cracks down on Kirby... hard. Afterwards, Kirby explains his mindset, which Nixter apparently laughs at, and subsequently asks Kirby how that setup would even work. Afterwards, he doesn't post until a day later with this. At this point, he's null. Maybe if he would give thoughts on things other than Doqtor Kirby, he'd be leaning town.

TOWK: I feel like this TOWK is not as aggressive as I'd think town TOWK would be. He starts off with voting you, revealing the hidden text in your post (which could've also been found by quoting). Then he gives the reason he found the post suspicious. After asking Kirby why he is "completely sure Dr.Geno is town", in his next post, he states that he's almost completely sure that Kirby is town, as "No noob scum can fake that kind of ignorance on their first game." I think it's quite possible if they prepare for mafia, which Kirby says he has. In his reads, he doesn't give a read on Terra for a reason like he always plays like this on day 1, or something like that. He also gives a town read on Kirby and a gut town read on rexos, another new player. When I asked about that read, he retorted with an excuse of having an innocent air about him. Yeah, sure. Because posting several filler posts and stating something quite obvious for his sole post of content at that point just reeks of town, huh? Maybe it's ignorance and innocence or something, I don't know. Anyway, his last post started out like this:
TheOneWhoKnocks wrote:
We definitely shouldn't be revealing our roles lol
I don't know what kind of stuff you guys made, but the role I made has the potential to be incredibly useful for the town. If they revealed themselves, they would be the first to go.

And caused Genis to also describe the role he made a bit. Might not have been your intention, but whatever. Null leaning scum.

Terra: I'm gonna try to make this as short as possible, because only Terra can make nine posts seem to take nine hours to read and interpret. I agree with him on most things. I agree with Terra about the way Genis had been acting earlier. It got pretty annoying to see Genis make posts like these. If anything they make him look more suspicious. And it's hard to believe Genis didn't know how mass-claiming could negatively affect us if it says in the OP that roles won't affect alignment and doesn't know there can be a mafia version of a doctor, despite saying he does a lot of research on the wiki. He also tells Doqtor Kirby that he should've prepped for this game. Irony? Then, I got sheeped. I actually looked back in the DotA mafia and Genis wasn't the one to initiate the setup speculation, but took part in it. In this game he's initiating setup speculation. Take that as you will. Null leaning town.

By the way DJ, you wouldn't have happened to ask for reads on those three because of this:
Terra wrote:
TOWK's feeling pretty town as is Nix. Everyone else I'm more unsure about.

would you?


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I guess my memory fails me, because I could have sworn there was some other game where Terra was mafia and he posted a bighuge analysis on a single player like that Day 1, which I don't recall him doing in any games where he wasn't mafia. Oh well.

@Maya, I'm usually aggressive as every alignment, but admittedly I haven't been as into this game as I normally am due to my sleep clock being all f*** up and not being able to post when things are happening.
You're like, really hung up on that rexos read. I called him gut town, yet with this:
Maya Fey wrote:
Yeah, sure. Because posting several filler posts and stating something quite obvious for his sole post of content at that point just reeks of town, huh?

you act like I called him some sort of godlike confirmed-town? I explained why I have a gut read on someone, I didn't do a post by post analysis of rexos explaining why he's the Mafia Messiah.

@Panthera, you actually didn't answer DJ's question at all. Specifically, you said:
Panthera leo wrote:
Might as well just drop that because it has been revealed that what you were doing was a reaction test by breaking forum rules (small, transparent text). Whatever suspicious (and obvious) activity you were doing was nullified when TOWK highlighted your "disclaimer" and you apologized to Dr. Geno.

"Might as well drop it" is not an answer to his question.

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I dunno, maybe our definitions of gut feelings are different.


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Maya Fey wrote:
Terra: I'm gonna try to make this as short as possible, because only Terra can make nine posts seem to take nine hours to read and interpret. I agree with him on most things. I agree with Terra about the way Genis had been acting earlier. It got pretty annoying to see Genis make posts like these. If anything they make him look more suspicious. And it's hard to believe Genis didn't know how mass-claiming could negatively affect us if it says in the OP that roles won't affect alignment and doesn't know there can be a mafia version of a doctor, despite saying he does a lot of research on the wiki. He also tells Doqtor Kirby that he should've prepped for this game. Irony? Then, I got sheeped. I actually looked back in the DotA mafia and Genis wasn't the one to initiate the setup speculation, but took part in it. In this game he's initiating setup speculation. Take that as you will. Null leaning town.

Seems more like a read on me than Terra, but ok. I guess I just never knew that mafia doctors were actually a thing until I checked back in the wiki before, since I've never actually been in a game where that has happened. Ironic that I criticize Kirby for doing other stuff, I know. Sorry.

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Maya Fey wrote:
He also gives a town read on Kirby and a gut town read on rexos, another new player. When I asked about that read, he retorted with an excuse of having an innocent air about him. Yeah, sure. Because posting several filler posts and stating something quite obvious for his sole post of content at that point just reeks of town, huh?
you
Why are you not actively asking rexos for more content if you are dissatisfied with what he has so far provided?
Maya Fey wrote:
By the way DJ, you wouldn't have happened to ask for reads on those three because of this:
Terra wrote:
TOWK's feeling pretty town as is Nix. Everyone else I'm more unsure about.

would you?

No, it's because you and the aforementioned players are all playing passively. Playing passive is ok but it's starting to get on my nerves.

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Alright guys I felt like I haven't been very productive, so I should put my two cents in. Everything's synthetic on day one, so here comes the.............
READS, READS DAMN YOU!
Dr.Geno - Town. Probably has a headache right now, hahaha, perhaps it's more a gut read, but just seems like a townie to me.
Genis - Null. More focused on Terra I've noticed, more like a self-centered play concerning Terra's meta beatdown against Genis, understandable.
DJ Wizard Cop - Town. The quarrel with Panthera Leo is good pressuring deviating from the Doq fiasco, probably the most town move to follow up that.
Terra - Null. Dude's an enigma, and his day 1 play is very verbose, yet I can't pull any feelings one way or the other.
TheOneWhoKnocks - Town. Him revealing that he created a pro-town power role that he would like to keep under wraps screams town to me, otherwise his play has been smooth.
Pach - Null Leaning Town. Seems to be pressuring those who are already being pressured or questioned, which is certainly not a bad thing.
rex - Null. I'd like for rex to post more, I bet he's like me in the sense that day 1 is always the most hardest to get into because it's based on meta and just general banter, but he could at least try putting forth more effort.
RG4L | Champ - Town. A lot more productive than before, so that alone proves his town-ness to me.
Doqtor Kirby - I think you all know what I think about the Doq.
Maya Fey - Town. Very much heavily into the game and leading the town in a productive direction that I feel like a genuine pro-town play.
Panthera Leo - Null Leaning Scum. Can't help but notice his attempt to rescue Doqtor Kirby, which from my past experience is kind of the opposite than what he'd do if he was mafia partners, seeing as he would express my scumminess from the last mafia game, but that could be to rack in townie points, given that game's circumstance. Nevertheless, I don't like his current play so he's leaning scum to me.


Hopefully this suffices, day 2, as I can imagine for other players, would make me produce a lot more content.

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TheOneWhoKnocks - Town. Him revealing that he created a pro-town power role that he would like to keep under wraps screams town to me, otherwise his play has been smooth.

i dont understand something here so could you please explain to we how that merits towk being town?
i mean sure he could have made a pro-town role but it was my understanding that me made roles for other people to use and vice versa
for example lets say i chose to be a tailor i sent that in pm to savy and he gives me the role of a shop keeper and i design the abilities etc of the shop keeper for the player who chose the shop keeper after that its sent to savy who in turn sends you your original role that you chose ( the tailor )

so if youre saying that towk knew he was town before the beginning of the game then i dont know what to think

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rex wrote:
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TheOneWhoKnocks - Town. Him revealing that he created a pro-town power role that he would like to keep under wraps screams town to me, otherwise his play has been smooth.

i dont understand something here so could you please explain to we how that merits towk being town?
i mean sure he could have made a pro-town role but it was my understanding that me made roles for other people to use and vice versa
for example lets say i chose to be a tailor i sent that in pm to savy and he gives me the role of a shop keeper and i design the abilities etc of the shop keeper for the player who chose the shop keeper after that its sent to savy who in turn sends you your original role that you chose ( the tailor )

so if youre saying that towk knew he was town before the beginning of the game then i dont know what to think

No, I'm saying he wants to protect that person with that particular role with discreetness so the mafia may not target them. I hope I made that clear.

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