What about letting people be?

I support Ridley, but seeing how long this argument was holding up, we just really let people be. Right now talking about Ridley is like talking about Political views, neither side will change it's mentality, so why still waste time bringing the argument again, even if it's a joke?

Now getting back on topic, do you believe if any of the veterans will keep their old Final Smashes or some will have new ones? (apart of Samus, which she keeps the Zero Lazer)

I kinda hope the final smashes are tweaked, if anything, to be more balanced. Like Peach's becoming more effective, or Pit's being less effective.

Also, I'm curious to find out how Trophies are collected this time.

We still have the possible Melee Adventure Mode, and trophies could easily act as items. Then there's the Trophy Minigames like that coin slinger thing.

If all else fails, they could appear like Records in the middle of a fight.

Okay everybody shut the f*** about Ridley, Toad and Pokemon Trainer I am sick and tired of hearing this s***.

@Clubby
Toad wasn't in the first Mario game.

People are allowed to have opinions on things though, that's kind of the catch (no matter how stupid, like, let's say for example that someone actually wanted the Angry Video Game Nerd as a playable character in smash then, no matter how retarded that really is, he is still able to voice said opinion). If people want characters like Ridley or Toad in Smash then how does that really affect you in any shape? You don't die from it, and you certainly don't waste valuable time reading (or skimming over) such posts (because let's face it- we would spend that time being on the internet anyway).

If someone voices an opinion that you don't agree with then congrats- that's how opinion works.
If you don't want to have the same debate over and over again you can just choose to lay off the reply button.



That being said I really want Cooking Mama in Smash 4.

there is a difference between an opinion and a fundamental lack of understanding of scale

hey there,
if you didn't know already: Toad is in the first game and is at the end of most castles whenever Mario goes to the "wrong one"

Super Mario Bros. is not the first Mario game.

oh, sorry about that.

which one is the first one?

Probably Donkey Kong (arcade) or Mario Bros. (arcade)

wasn't it referred to as Jump Man though back then?

not sure why that would be considered a Mario game if the character is technically called Jump Man lol

He was called Jump Man in Donkey Kong, but I think it's pretty obvious what his name was in Mario Bros.

The Scale thing, right?
Let's take a adventure into Onett

THAT is the drugstore in Onett.
About 2 - 1 1/2 Ness' could fit under that roof over the stairs
The Building has 3 windows. Take those notes.
Lets begin with a picture a lucas, roughly the size of Ness.

You can fit 2 1/2 Lucas' in there.

Now, take note of those windows in this second picture.

Holy f***, they screwed this one up badly. This cropped out
part of the top, and smashed everything together. So much for scale.
Look at where the windows are!

Being relevant isn't even a problem in smash bros though; Look at Pit!
His design isn't that similar to the original design


Megaman also has a classic design.
It would kinda be awkward that Samus is in her Other M while Ridley looks different,
But if the size changes, its not that awkward.
Also, theres this argument going around saying that Ridley is already shown in Smashbros,
so thats his fixed size in the series. The SSBM pictures is the proof against it.


Depending on which game, he is. If your talking about
Donkey Kong, the arcade game, Peach, Bowser, and Luigi don't appear in it.
I was talking about the first console Mario.

You need to get out more, man.

Well, I found all this of google
I have to play a Soccer Team on Saturdays so...yeah
It took me forever to post that, like 8 posts came while I was working