Apologizing for the long delay in posts(as I've been very very very busy), but I can only respond to everyone tomorrow-ish.

Meanwhile, everyone, please find other suspects other than me so the game doesn't die on the next day.

Yeah I've been busy too. My apologies.

I'll reread the game and post something in 1-2 days.

No, you're not the only one Shoop, I've noticed it as well. He's probably trying to drag in more people so that the heat on him can come off...which can be either good or bad .-.

What

Seriously? The game could be kept going by other people continually examining what you've been doing in your posts, not just throwing out all the information on you temporarily. While you couldn't respond to them, at the same time, it would still be examining and getting more information built up on you for an educated "Yes" or "No" answer when it comes to a lynch.

Alright, but please help us do this. Information from dead players (if you do end up lynched) is much more valuable than information from those whoare doing science andare still alive.

I'm going to re-read as well.

If you noticed, why didn't you tell us before, and instead waited until someone else said it?

This applies to TOWK as well.
He attacked me after I posted on page 11 that I thought Ermac and Reven were scummy, and then he proceeded to defend Ermac in his reads post by attacking me, which I think is on page 11 as well.

@Brik: Not at all. What I meant was that I said that when I flip town, it will be disproven that we are both scum, since I will be shown to be town.


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What I meant by that statement was that it would be better to find other suspects other than me even if I am scum, and especially if you think I'm scum.

The only reason why I thought you were probscum is because, for some random reason, I felt some sort of connection between you and Geno.

I'll get the rant up tomorrow, but here's a list for the time being:
Town(in no order): TOWK, DJ, 194.
Scum(in no order): Axel, Reven, Ermac.

Everyone else is flat null, with the exception of Brik and Geno, who are null-town. I'll get a Thomas/Shoop analysis up tomorrow-ish.

Forgot this, sorry.


And then what happens after that? Once I get lynched, there's still the REST OF THE GAME LEFT. If I am of either alignment, watching my wagon/finding other suspects would be helpful, as you get information that will be helpful if/once I get lynched. Say I'm town, everyone tunnels on me, and then I die. What happens after that? Guesswork that people who bandwagoned/hammered are always scum? That's what happened on D1 in SSBMafia, where the mafia team got the bomb on Krillin, left him to die, and the town was pretty much starved of information on the resulting days.

Please.

Argh, for crying out loud. Can you stop with this "if I am of either alignment" garbage, please? You are not of either alignment. Either you are town, or you are scum. You cannot be both at once. The fact that you are trying to be is a significant scum-tell.

Regarding your read on me: You didn't think I was scum for "some random reason". You compared this game to star-crossed and said that you saw the same things happening. The problem is that they really weren't. Geno was trying to prevent a hasty hammering, not push for your lynch. Other than us both responding to you, I don't see how you could link us in any way. What you are basically saying is that you were relying on the "Brik is always scum" meta to do your work for you. You threw out that you thought I was scum, giving only minimal explanation, and expected someone to start pushing against me in your place using an argument that wasn't there. Not only would you have had your lynch on me, who happens to be one of your primary accusers, but you would have been able to pin it on whoever picked up your non-existent argument. Bingo, two kills off one play. That didn't work, so now you're excusing it away by stating that you suggested the connection for "some random reason", because you don't have the guts to return to your original flaky argument. To top it off, now both of us are null-town? Why? What changed? What did Geno do to make you change your mind? What did I do? Please address these questions in your next post.

I would also very much appreciate a detailed explanation of why Axel, Deciton and Ermac are scum. Thus far you have provided no convincing evidence to support your accusations.

Regarding Deciton, your only point against him seems to be that he bandwagoned on my reasoning. That is simply not true. The post you quoted was made 8 minutes after mine. That is well within the period of time that someone might be ninja'd. He saw the same flaw in your post than I did, and thought fit to bring it up. I don't think that makes him scum.

Speaking of which, I don't think you ever addressed the point that both of us asked about. Why do you feel that it is acceptable to use meta (old meta at that - you haven't played mafia on this site in a while) to justify genuinely scummy actions? Actions that, I am quite certain, you would be the first to call another player out on if the shoe were on the other foot?

I'm curious about your read on me actually. Not having said much on the game, having thrown a couple of dubious lines, and a little discussion with DJ, which happens to be the unanimous town read, you could have easily put me as null, or even worse, to make a "case" against me to throw pressure out of you. Why did you decide to pick those other players as scum then?

If you're town, you're town. If you're town, you should try very much to let us know you are town.


Then we examine the reason each person had for voting on you. Also, this is just a bad scare tactic. Really not liking your play so far.


Bandwagoning is really an iffy thing for seeing if somebody is scum. It's a mistake that's gotten me lynched as town in some older games. Anyways, as for hammering, a hammer this close to the deadline makes more and more sense as we get closer to NL'ing.

If memory serves, the deadline is tomorrow. Terra, if you are going to rant, please do it now.

I am 100% supportive of a Terra lynch. If Terra doesn't respond, would two people be kind enough to cast the last votes?

I was honestly convinced he was being attacked for a simple mistake he made in the beginning but after this whole fiasco I'm pretty sure he's scum. I'd be on board for a Terra lynch now, I guess.

So is that why your vote still isn't on him?