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AwsomeMan wrote:
just spent some time on YouTube and I'm convinced more than ever that this game is good. I really like how they incorporated chaos control into Shadow's gameplay. It's clear that while it may seem slow if you suck, the better you are, the faster you'll go. I can hardly wait until I can get it!



it may look fast and good on the vids, but it plays like you're controlling an elephant.

also, prepare to be stopped every 5 seconds with an enemy or wall.

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AwsomeMan wrote:
just spent some time on YouTube and I'm convinced more than ever that this game is good. I really like how they incorporated chaos control into Shadow's gameplay. It's clear that while it may seem slow if you suck, the better you are, the faster you'll go. I can hardly wait until I can get it!



it may look fast and good on the vids, but it plays like you're controlling an elephant.

also, prepare to be stopped every 5 seconds with an enemy or wall.

nonono. don't feed me this crap. I watched several videos of entire levels and in the ones with good players it was easy for them to tear through the enemies while barely slowing down. If that is your opinion, it just means you didn't bother to play the game for very long.

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whatever you say :wee:



but anyways, you'd better just wait for Madworld.

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yep, gettin that maybe later this week, even though it comes out tomorrow, i gotta focus on school for the rest of the week, but i might get platinum first. :P

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I'm gettin' Zubo tomorrow, so ha. :p


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Hi guys I like Sonic I played his games when I was younger.

Favorite Character: Super Sonic, Hyper Sonic, Super Tails, Hyper Knuckles.

Favorite Games: Sonic and Knuckles The Hedgehog 3, Sonic Unleashed, Sonic Chronicles.

So far I think sega is doing good but it needs more inprovement like Storyline, controls, Boss Battles, etc. when I'am older I will make it my job to revive Sonic from it's downfall.


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On this show called Good Game, they did a massive Sonic game history kind of review thing - Sonic has some rly OLD CRAPPY game!
And for Unleashed they said, "We can only say one thing - Werehog - what were they thinking".
^^^^ AGREED :nod: :nod: :nod:

They didn't do any Black Knight stuff though... :eew:

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Black knight is only good because of the sword. The bad stuff was the rest and the annoying controls

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Black knight is only good because of the sword. The bad stuff was the rest and the annoying controls


To be honest, I think swords are kinda over rated.

Warhammers, now thats where all the fun is! :mrgreen: (Well, in my books.)

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There are 2 things that Sega can do to revive Sonic (That I can think of):

1. Make a brand new game, but only have the original 6 main characters (Sonic, Tails, Knux, Robotnik, Amy, Metal/Mecha Sonic) and have it be a normal platformer like the original genesis games, and have either 40-or-so levels so its a complete game or put it on VC with 10 levels.
2. Remake the entire 4 classic genesis games (1, 2, 3, Knuckles) in 3d as Green Hill Zone was in Sonic Adventure 2 Battle. Sonic CD could be done as well for it's popularity.

I don't know why they haven't done either of these yet...


And if they are feeling bold (Looks like it), they could make one of the following:

1. Sonic Adventure 3 (Would probably sell well but be horrible)
2. Sonic R2 (Hey, that was a popular game)
3. Sonic the Fighters 2 (Another semi-popular game which Sega recognized in brawl)

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There are 2 things that Sega can do to revive Sonic (That I can think of):

1. Make a brand new game, but only have the original 6 main characters (Sonic, Tails, Knux, Robotnik, Amy, Metal/Mecha Sonic) and have it be a normal platformer like the original genesis games, and have either 40-or-so levels so its a complete game or put it on VC with 10 levels.
2. Remake the entire 4 classic genesis games (1, 2, 3, Knuckles) in 3d as Green Hill Zone was in Sonic Adventure 2 Battle. Sonic CD could be done as well for it's popularity.

I don't know why they haven't done either of these yet...


And if they are feeling bold (Looks like it), they could make one of the following:

1. Sonic Adventure 3 (Would probably sell well but be horrible)
2. Sonic R2 (Hey, that was a popular game)
3. Sonic the Fighters 2 (Another semi-popular game which Sega recognized in brawl)

the best thing would be a game made up entirely of Sonic Unleashed style day levels. those were so freaking awesome. it would also be good to add special levels for other characters (Tails, Knuckles, etc.) that require them to utilize their special abilities to get through. ex. Knuckles levels would have gaps to glide over, walls to climb; Tails would have areas were he needs to fly.

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AwsomeMan wrote:
RoyMaster4 wrote:
There are 2 things that Sega can do to revive Sonic (That I can think of):

1. Make a brand new game, but only have the original 6 main characters (Sonic, Tails, Knux, Robotnik, Amy, Metal/Mecha Sonic) and have it be a normal platformer like the original genesis games, and have either 40-or-so levels so its a complete game or put it on VC with 10 levels.
2. Remake the entire 4 classic genesis games (1, 2, 3, Knuckles) in 3d as Green Hill Zone was in Sonic Adventure 2 Battle. Sonic CD could be done as well for it's popularity.

I don't know why they haven't done either of these yet...


And if they are feeling bold (Looks like it), they could make one of the following:

1. Sonic Adventure 3 (Would probably sell well but be horrible)
2. Sonic R2 (Hey, that was a popular game)
3. Sonic the Fighters 2 (Another semi-popular game which Sega recognized in brawl)

the best thing would be a game made up entirely of Sonic Unleashed style day levels. those were so freaking awesome. it would also be good to add special levels for other characters (Tails, Knuckles, etc.) that require them to utilize their special abilities to get through. ex. Knuckles levels would have gaps to glide over, walls to climb; Tails would have areas were he needs to fly.


+Multiplayer.

But I believe that there was metheod in their madness.

Any idea how expensive it must be to make 1 Sonic level? They have to be long so that he can't just blaze through them in 3 seconds. So the game would either be very short, or be a wiiware title, but then they had another idea:

Gimmicks!
Werehog allowed them to keep the story mode going, because when compair to the day levels these night levels were alot shorter, that way they would also cut down on money.
This is likely to be the reason why there are so many enemies in BK, to slow Sonic down, to spend more time on a level. (You lot said it yourselves, Story mode complete in 3 hours!)

They need to figure out a better way of making less expensive Sonic levels without the annoying gimmicks.

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I got Sonic and the Black Knight and I have to say its good. But hey thats just my opion...

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I got Sonic and the Black Knight and I have to say its good. But hey thats just my opion...

what a surprise! another person says it's good. IGN is looking wronger all the time.

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AwsomeMan wrote:
Killerpanda123 wrote:
I got Sonic and the Black Knight and I have to say its good. But hey thats just my opion...

what a surprise! another person says it's good. IGN is looking wronger all the time.


average score of 6.0 on metacritic.

Practicly everyone is bashing the controls and level design. (No loops?!? i mean wtf.)

The only one that is defending it and saying it has good gameplay is Nintendo power, and we all know they are biased to make games look good.

The only difference makers, is that people are now judgeing along with the graphics.

They are either very impressed with the graphics (like the sites that scored it 6.0/7.0)
or they are only slightly impressed, like IGN, because they are paying attention more to the gameplay.

I mean its a beautiful game folks, but when you through level design and gameplay down the garbage you are sure to get a score like IGN gave.


I've seen countless times many sonic fans defending the game and calling reviewers biased, when the reality is that they themselves are biased.

They say that "just because its a sonic game, doesn't mean its bad", when in truth the game does not succeed as a good wii game. And not because its sonic, but because its just a bad game.

Now take all the sonic things out of the game and replace them with other characters.
So there is no trace of it being a sonic game.

What do you have?

You have a bad game. Regardless of sonic or otherwise.


Though another thing that may have influenced the higher scores, is the fanservice. Since it provides much of it.

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