Sure, compared to characters like Link, Bomberman, DK, LLoyd, or Shiek, she had better options than the rest of the 0.9b cast. But in beta, she's ranked 28th out of 39 characters, placing her at the end of B- tier. This is such a dramatic drop mainly due to two reasons: Characters like Goku, Fox, and others above ZSS either having a fantastic combo game, very easy kill confirms, or good recoveries.

ZSS has pretty much one combo: down throw, up air, up air, maybe up special at low percents, but its always techable and easy to escape out of. Boost kick is such a better option instead, and is a kill confirm.

My point stands that she's so low ranking because she can't chase anyone offstage. She has to press against the side of a stage or be directly under the ledge if she wants to activate the tether grab.

Also buff down b, it feels too slow and too short.

You do know that top 5 in 9b is something right?

Now compare 9b ZSS to Beta ZSS

If you can't see the nerfs that happened then you should probably look deeper

The latest patch seems to have fixed most of the big problems that ZSS had, like how short-hop bair and fair went over most characters unless timed to be really late. The new trading system allows ZSS to meteor a charging Firefox with dair and survive. Flip Kick has also been made usable, and although the nerf to using it as a recovery hurts, it now means that there's a reason to use Side-B to grab ledge. Fair's also way more reliable.

Still waiting to see her down B blue effects from the official games

I wish ZSS' Neutral B was a bit better. It's either you get full charge or the no charge which is really weak.

@TheRebornBowser Agreed. I did play as her in 9b, but not a whole lot. I think Neutral B needs a huge buff.

Just edit your post, it will make things easier

So for the past few months, I've been wondering if up-b into up-tilt was meteor cancel-able, and I'd always assumed that it was. But now that I have a video editing software that can go frame by frame, I decided to test it out for myself.

So the wiki says meteor cancelling can be done starting on frame 9, meaning that in order for it to be true, the opponent would either have to touch the ground by then, or the hitbox of up-tilt would have to connect. From testing on a falcon at 80%, he hit the ground on the 7th frame of knockback.

Am I missing something here? Couldn't ZSS just chain up-tilt into more up-b's?

ZSS doesn't get the attention she deserves in the ssf2 community, she looks incomplete in the way she is currently.
First, she should get Plasma Whip to be not only her side B, but her grab aerial too;
Second, she should have visual effects for her flip jump, it's not only for the visual, it helps the character to confuse the opponent;
And for least, when holding the button, she should be able to change the distance of her flip jump.

so her side b got buffed, it got a bit bigger.
using it while short hopping on the edge allows you snap on the ledge even while on stage, it can allow you to pull of some combos.
(craftgmc pls make gif)

As you wish lol. bless FRAPS + VirtualDub for me being able to record ingame footage + edit and save the clips as GIFs so i can post to imgur or sumthin, and god bless the Resize filter so it doesn't export with stupid resolution and ridiculous file size

She already could do this before 1.2 though, so my only guess is that she can ledge-snap from slightly further?




Something i noticed is that if you SideB and the hitboxes connect just as you land on the ground, it'll deal double damage by connecting twice (My guess is that the move transitions from aerial to grounded, which updates the hitboxes. Just like how it happens to Jigglypuff's pound angled down)

she could do it from right under the left edge of battlefield's left platform
it's a bit inconsistent though

No, it really wasn't, It's not new.
ZSS's side B didn't get any changes.