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MG Mafia XIX: Dota 2 Mafia - GG 
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If there is another way you can tell me, that would be fine.


Tue Mar 04, 2014 6:24 pm
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A word that takes 8 strokes to write in print, in all upper-case.


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C'mon, quit beating around the bush. What's the point of using riddles for one person when everyone in the topic can try and figure it out, including the mafia who you so desperately want to keep it from?


Wed Mar 05, 2014 1:05 am
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But that one person actually knows the answer lol, so it's much easier for them.

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135 wrote:
A word that takes 8 strokes to write in print, in all upper-case.

How about the last letter of it?

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C'mon, quit beating around the bush. What's the point of using riddles for one person when everyone in the topic can try and figure it out, including the mafia who you so desperately want to keep it from?

That shouldn't be a problem since, right now, the mafia should be responding to Brikanorak's accusations towards them.


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E.


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Dephius and Kyuubit, please defend yourselves. Also, Brik, those explanations would be pretty good right now.

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Defend myself against what, exactly? A vote for me with no reasoning? Please.


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Dephius wrote:
C'mon, quit beating around the bush. What's the point of using riddles for one person when everyone in the topic can try and figure it out, including the mafia who you so desperately want to keep it from?

This looks pretty scummy, as this information could benefit the mafia more than the town as a whole should it be revealed, based on the fact it's worth putting into a riddle.

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Alright then. Let's get down business. (To defeat the scum.) Dephius is mafia. Allow me to explain why.

There is a common scum technique that I like to call semi-bussing. The idea is for one member of the mafia to hold minor suspicions of another without ever pushing against them. This is essentially an option select. If the town doesn't push the second mafioso at all, the first is under no obligation to do it for them. His partner gets to live longer and he doesn't atract suspicion. Win-win. If the town does end up pursuing a lynch on the partner, then the first mafioso can jump on the wagon without anyone batting an eye thanks to the "suspicions" voiced earlier. Great, right?

If one reads through Day 1 of this game, they can see that the only interactions between Terra and Dephius involve Terra executing this strategy. Take a look at his first real post. Let's dissect it, shall we?
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The trouble with setup speculation is that it's really unreliable to tell whether people are town or scum since both of them are pretty much guessing on everything. I'd like to say something before I continue, and that's that people should give their views on everyone so far, or at least the people who interest them. Dephius does get minor scum points for starting the setup speculation, though, and I'm not exactly a fan of Genis' explanation for the RQS.
Pay special attention to the bolded part. "Minor scum points" might as well be a catchphrase for this style of play. Again:
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Going with pure gut right now, my main suspect is Genis. Don't like the RQS and his coverup, and his subsequent participation in setup speculation. Dephius is not far behind, though.
Terra "suspects" both Genis and Dephius. Who does his vote end up on? Genis, of course. He is using grouping to associate the scum behaviour of his partner with similar behaviour from a town player. Ultimately, he attempts to guide suspicion onto the townie, leaving his partner safe.

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Kyuubit and Brik feel a bit town for me, for their refutation of setup speculation. I'd like to ask both of you, though, who is your main suspect now and why?

Terra uses grouping again in the same post to promote Kyuubit as a townie by associating him with me. Notice that "refutation of setup speculation" is the main reason that he gives for the two of us being town. Problem. This is a terrible reason to think that someone is town. Terra himself refutes setup speculation in this post. It's an easy thing to do as either alignment. What is more worrisom, however, is that by this point I have done more to advance the game than simply refute setup speculation. Kyuubit, on the other hand, not so much. Terra was attempting to make us one and the same in the public eye, thereby granting Kyuubit unmerited strong town status.


That's one post, but you get the idea. Simply reading Day 1 again will help a lot. I'll continue to post in order to strengthen my case, but I'm starting to have trouble making sense to myself so it's best to leave it at this for now.

Brik's Stupendous Reads:
Likely town: Nixter and Genis.
Possibly town: Geno and King Arthur.
Possibly scum: Kyuubit.
Likely scum: Dephius.
Cult: 135 and Franziska.

Also, could Axel/Vanellope/Pinkie post please?

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Wed Mar 05, 2014 7:48 pm
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Brikanorak, remember what you received Night 1?

That was from my character slot.


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135 wrote:
Brikanorak, remember what you received Night 1?

That was from my character slot.

Is it the same thing I received?


Wed Mar 05, 2014 8:07 pm
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Yes.


Wed Mar 05, 2014 8:17 pm

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Okay Mr. Brikanorak, the obvious question here is whether or not you received something Night 1 and if you did, what it was that you received.

Would you mind telling me? I'd like to prove your cult theory wrong.


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Why would you want to know what he received?


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