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Post Re: Wario
Gregory Goku wrote:
Goku's Instant Transmission. It's one of his most iconic moves, and isn't even in the game!

http://mcleodgaming.wikia.com/wiki/Instant_Transmission
Do some research first.

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Post Re: Wario
It isn't Instant Transmission you know. Instant Transmission is when he puts 2 fingers on his forehead and warps.
SSF2 version is just him doing a kick and using his superspeed to go to the direction desired (Yes, it looks exactly like that). You shouldn't tell me to do researches when I'm a Dragon Ball expert, lmao.

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Wario is shaped like a friend

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Post Re: Wario
Gregory Goku wrote:
"would it make sense if pika's thunder is replaced with, let's say, light screen (a move pika can naturally learn), and move thunder to u-smash (strong attack hitting above) or d-smash (strong attack hitting around/both sides/nearby)?

would it make sense to remove isaac's s-spec, since he already has a lot of other psynergy moves, in favor of other psynergy?

would it make sense to remove MM's lemons since he uses a lot of other robot master weaponry anyway, to make room for the metal blade? or even replacing Jab, just jab, with the lemons, will that make everyone happy?"

Actually, it would. Seriously, much sense.

Also, they've moved Lloyd's Sonic Thrust to Dash attack. Why couldn't Wario receive the same treatment? If Shoulder Bash is his most iconic move, it should be in his Standard Special. But it isn't! There are NO references to Biker Wario (the most frequent we see nowadays)... Do you want another example? MK's Dimensional Cape. Wow. It's one, if not the most iconic of MK's moves. And it's on his Down-B. And NO one complains about it. Or... Goku's Instant Transmission. It's one of his most iconic moves, and isn't even in the game!


the point is, it's a special not a dash attack.

Sonic thrust was never one of :lloyd: 's iconic moves compared to stuff like Demon fang.

And :goku: 's most iconic move is the kamehameha, and his up-b is a modified version of Instant transmission.

:wario: , iirc, never used the bike as an attack. Of course the Shoulder Bash would be a greater priority to be a special than the bike. Also, have you seen some stunt riders? some of them ride a bike then jump off, leaving the bike running... :wario: seems to be that kind of person imo.

Besides, we already have the bike as a Wario Man S-spec, why can't you guys settle for that? The bash appeared in his first game appearance and first playable appearance... and possibly the most recent playable appearance... idk if he was playable in a wario game with a bike as an attack... smash doesn't count...

If you really want to use the bike, play sm4sh, brawl, or crusade. SSF2 is unique in a great way, stop forcing change. Not all change is good y'know

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Post Re: Wario
Apparently Wario's ground-pound dair and belly-thrust forward smash aren't good enough for Beta. Hmph.

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At the very least we got our pummel back

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Post Re: Wario
Gregory Goku wrote:
It isn't Instant Transmission you know. Instant Transmission is when he puts 2 fingers on his forehead and warps.
SSF2 version is just him doing a kick and using his superspeed to go to the direction desired (Yes, it looks exactly like that). You shouldn't tell me to do researches when I'm a Dragon Ball expert, lmao.

The reason he doesn't do that is because it would be utterly out of place as an attack within the context of SSF2 if he did.
Some things are altered for the sake of balance, practicality, and fun. This is one of them.

He's not a high-mobility/long-range character like, say, Mewtwo. So a Mewtwo-style teleport would seriously jar with his playstyle.
The name of the game is consistency and coherence. And sometimes, to achieve that, canon be damned.

(Also, his recovery's easily-gimped enough as it is since the second half of it doesn't have a hitbox.)

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snidbert64 wrote:
Apparently Wario's ground-pound dair and belly-thrust forward smash aren't good enough for Beta. Hmph.

I do want the belly thrust back but I'm pretty cool with the new D-Air tbh.

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Post Re: Wario
Harr Turnpike wrote:
Gregory Goku wrote:
It isn't Instant Transmission you know. Instant Transmission is when he puts 2 fingers on his forehead and warps.
SSF2 version is just him doing a kick and using his superspeed to go to the direction desired (Yes, it looks exactly like that). You shouldn't tell me to do researches when I'm a Dragon Ball expert, lmao.

The reason he doesn't do that is because it would be utterly out of place as an attack within the context of SSF2 if he did.
Some things are altered for the sake of balance, practicality, and fun. This is one of them.

He's not a high-mobility/long-range character like, say, Mewtwo. So a Mewtwo-style teleport would seriously jar with his playstyle.
The name of the game is consistency and coherence. And sometimes, to achieve that, canon be damned.

(Also, his recovery's easily-gimped enough as it is since the second half of it doesn't have a hitbox.)


ty for handing us this knowledge
really wanted to say something but was afraid I was gonna make myself look dumb lol

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Post Re: Wario
☻Danny☻ wrote:
snidbert64 wrote:
Apparently Wario's ground-pound dair and belly-thrust forward smash aren't good enough for Beta. Hmph.

I do want the belly thrust back but I'm pretty cool with the new D-Air tbh.

I'm in the opposite, I prefer his new S-Smash from Smash 4 but I do want Ground Pound back as his D-Air (given how Mario already has the same D-Air as Beta Wario, in terms of functionality at least, it kinda seems redundant)

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he already has bair :(

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^Wait his B-Air remains the same in Beta?
Coz if that's the case then I do want Ground Pound back coz I don't want two aerials where he drills with his head.

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☻Danny☻ wrote:
^Wait his B-Air remains the same in Beta?
Coz if that's the case then I do want Ground Pound back coz I don't want two aerials where he drills with his head.

He definitely had Brawl/Sm4sh's Bair:

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I hope they buff his Down and Up-B. Maybe they might even add the mechanic that whenever you eat an item, it heals you/charges your waft.

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I hope that he travels more vertical distance with the full waft

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