Before I go, though, here are parting thoughts to leave you with, including my answers to DJ's questions, to Genis etc.

@Genis: My argument against you was not based on your meta, primarily. It was based on the meta of MG's overall play, which is a completely different matter altogether. I'd like to argue once again that stuff that's seen as a scumtell on other sites(for example, saying 'boo hoo' when a PR dies is generally agreed on to be a scumtell on MS) doesn't work here, which is why I reworked my analysis.

It's not a bad scumtell in an out of itself to say everyone's town, but it's a very safe thing to do. Mafia tend to do safer things than town due to the inherent defensiveness of their wincon.

Your false dichotomy has to be highlighted: look, I would've been fine if you backed down from setup speculation and started actually scumhunting. However, my main point of contention is that you weren't scumhunting and therefore aren't town.

[quote=DJ Wizard Cop]
1. Can you please explain to me what's so hard about pressuring more than one person at a time?
2. If you tell someone "lol i think ur scum but the reason is sekret " don't you think they're going to adjust their play?
3. Have you realized that the easiest time to look at every post from one person is the sort by author function on Day 1 when everyone hasn't posted a lot?
4. "Why I consider abrupt defensiveness to be a scumtell is another issue altogether." Please elaborate.
5. Why are you moving on to Genis, the "bigger fish to fry"? The issue with Doq is hardly resolved.[/quote]

1)It's not hard, it's just inefficient. People can very easily get distracted if more than one person flubs up at once, and a distracted town would make very little use of the time that we have. Evidently, though, pressuring one person at a time worked for the purposes of producing info.
2)They are, but that's also a part of the pressure: seeing if they realize what that is they're doing wrong and fixing it. Even so, they'd adjust it to an even higher extent if I explained why I thought they were scum, which is worse imo
3)I actually did lol
4)Changes in mood indicate a scared mafiosi. I try to look for someone who's been moving freely through the game and then becomes very defensive the moment something bad(i.e. pressure) happens to them.
5)I personally believe that it's fairly safe to say Doq is town, though I am concerned with his recent lurking.

Champ's still a scumread of mine(active lurking is worse than lurking imo, since it shows a conscious attempt to be town), TOWK's playing suspiciously close to the way he did in All-Stars(when h ewas mafia), and Genis is still Genis.

I've posted twice since your last read on me, which was town. What was so wrong with those posts that you now think I'm more like mafia-me?
Doq has not posted AT ALL since your last read on him, which was null-town. How is it now "fairly safe to say" that he's town?

Weekend started early for me.

That and I've been having some out of game problems, but I will not declare V/LA as of now.

As of right now (this post on 16.8.2014) I can't tell you. Everyone's play within the last 3-4 pages or so is quite null to me. Or I'm really missing something. Although I did come across this posted after my last response:

And while it's a response to Terra's post, I still have a FoS on him.
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Unvote, as currently my vote was on Nixter, but I later said he was ok.

ebwop~ read that as for me, not for terra. my bad towk.

I assure you. It's not my intention to be killed; however, I don't think I am capable of playing in this game in my current condition.

I'm confused, is your FoS on Terra or on Genis?

And would you care to explain why?

Also get better Lucy

Genis.
If he wanted an explanation of him that might mean he's possibly a scumdood.

No it doesn't, why would it?

Well my main scum read is Doqtor Kirby because he played rather stupid and tried hammering himself, he didn't defend himself at first until he got super pressured. After that he begins to lurk so that's the reason why I think he is scum.

That's the only scum read i have right now.

Why would that mean he's scum? Him wanting in explanation for Terra's scum read on him was perfectly justified since Terra gave no reason until he was asked like 5 times

Champ does not have his vote on Kirby despite a scum read on him.
I would like Champ to explain this such thing.

Doqtor Kirbyyyyyyyyy

Answer my question please

Let's take a minute here to determine if we should lynch today. With 12 players, I'm assuming 3 mafia 1 3P, which makes for 8 townies.

If we random lynch Day 1, we have a 33% chance of hitting scum.
If we no lynch Day 1 and random lynch Day 2, we have a 36% chance of hitting scum, which, while better, is not necessarily worth it.

Assuming we mislynch today, that's mylo Day 2. However, if we mislynch Day 2, we're at lylo on Day 3.

Which isn't terrible either way but I prefer the second option.

I'm not comfortable lynching today simply because our chances get better if we no lynch. With replacements clogging up discussion, I doubt we're going to get any further today anyways.

Unvote: Terra

Vote: No Lynch