Sonic and Tails Resprite =

Beta being delayed =

give us PM sonic pliz

Give us PM Sonic with 0.9a Light Dash and 0.9a/0.9b Bounce Bracelet pliz pliz

I personally believe that PM Sonic would be great, but we should remove the addition of the bounce bracelet and just keep the spindash for spinshotting in midair.

I really don't like PM Sonic, especially with the balancing changes that were done to him.

I liked v9a Sonic, but I still want Spring Jump to get the height it needs from the official games.

By official games, do you mean the official STH games or the official Smash games cuz the height you obtained from the springs in the STH games varied.

Offical smash games

Ah. You're right though, even in .9b the height reached after performing the spring jump is rather lacking

He needs to make his Sonic Adventure pose when using Homing Attack like in Project M

The thing that got me was that Homing Attack and Light Dash got nerfed in recovery terms, but they didn't give Spring Jump anu height to compensate.

To make it worse Light Dash also put Sonic into a helpless state, which just made it worse. If Sonic got less distance and couldn't use Spring jump after using light dash, then why was their a need for a helpless state?

You have a point there. Let's just pray to Cleod-bot that they did something about that along with his resprite for Beta.

I know Sonic's gonna get a resprite (and hopefully an overall buff) anyway, and this is an exaggeration of my true thoughts:
tbh i'm mostly afraid the devs would just resprite him and have no changes to the most useless spec besides sheik chain (BUT AT LEAST ALL HER OTHER SPECIAL ATTACKS ARE USEFUL UGH)
(And I know literally everyone including the developers know this so there's no point in even talking about it)

But light dash sucks

It just sucks

It's slow

It'll leave you vulnerable if you don't hit the enemy

It puts you in helpless state

You can't use it out of spring so it's only good for a cute situational recovery mixup

Only way to combo into it, HELL, EVEN HITTING WITH IT is with fthrow or a lucky edgeguard/read

Even if you land the tough-to-hit sweetspot, it barely kills anyway

I'm fine with even having sm4sh/brawl side-b, it was at least useful in its ability to combo off of it

I guess yall thought wolf's side-b was cool to put on of all characters, but it just doesn't fit with sonic's kit enough; it deserves a complete rework/replacement imo

The nerf was too strong;
from OP to useless

(unless everyone else can use this move super efficiently and i just don't know how to use it at all)

Here's a dumb idea;
Make Side Special his Smash 4 Spindash
But make Down Special that one Special Move from Sonic Battle
Y'know, that one where he throws the ring out, then pressing R again makes him zip to that spot kinda like a Light Dash
Make it like that
Down Special tosses the ring, and then Down Special again flings him towards it
It could be used for both recovery and also smacking people in the face
I think it'd be neat

sounds too pac-man-y imo but having a sonic battle attack be in the s-spec would be nice

We agree on this.

I also do think his air speed should be faster.

Starkiller tried to give me s*** on how we should go back to the original source when talking about characters. This was brought up when I was talking about Sonic's air speed.