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kb
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Not really
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Wed Jan 30, 2019 7:30 pm |
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Nonya
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Still holding on to hope for a Bethesda rep, Doomguy is my pick but Dragonborn feels more likely. Klonoa would be neat too, if Namco wants to throw in another character of theirs.
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Wed Jan 30, 2019 7:38 pm |
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kb
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eww gross no
bethesda do not get anyone in anything until they can stop making fallout 76 even worse
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Wed Jan 30, 2019 9:33 pm |
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Kittenpuncher
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I think bethesda f*** up fallout 76 is like an act of rebellion because theyre sick of msking oblivionspawn fps rpgs and want to try actually making different games. Thats why they made, like a card game and an mmo. And those things are both pretty good (Their ES card game is said to be the best digital card game! By this one dude B))
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Thu Jan 31, 2019 2:23 am |
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Term
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| | | | Kirb-Star wrote: Yes, Plant is in fact a character with a very unique moveset and a really well known enemy across a very popular series. However, I meant it was a dumb decision regarding development time. You may say "but it's easy to animate" and i agree, having the character have no facial expressions (it still moves the mouth and grins and much more but you get what i say), unlike other characters. However, the dev team still has to model the different transformations the plant uses in different attacks, they gotta make the hitboxes match, they have to get people to voice the character, they have to get new lines for the voice actors (Guidances, narrators across different languages, etc). Basically, a lot of work towards a joke character in a franchise with a lot of characters already (and just to note, i agree Mario should be the franchise with the most characters in the roster, given it's been a super influential franchise and it's earned its spot and stuff). What I'm saying, all of this effort could have been spent in a character from another franchise that could use the spot (Spring Man, a Zelda newcomer, more echo fighters, etc). We still got a really unique fighter i'm definitely gonna main, but i still stand it was a dumb decision for the dev team. Also Note: was developed in a mere 2 weeks, so in the case Piranha Plant had a similar development time to an echo or effortless joke chars, i'll eat my own words and shut my mouth with a zipper. | | | | |
Your fundamental flaw is calling Plant a "joke" character. There is literally nothing implying this character should be taken as seriously as Sandbag or Crusade's Weegee. It's a full fledged character, and for the reasons we agreed on above, it's a good choice for one. Unconventional != "joke"
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Fri Feb 01, 2019 12:57 am |
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Term
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Like I give a s*** about Fallout 76 Or Bethesda, for that matter. The fact that they own the Id IPs is purely coincidental to me
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Fri Feb 01, 2019 12:58 am |
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kb
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Like I give a s*** about you not giving a s***
that was rude I apologise in advance but still
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Fri Feb 01, 2019 2:03 am |
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Kirb-Star
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| | | | Term wrote: | | | | Kirb-Star wrote: Yes, Plant is in fact a character with a very unique moveset and a really well known enemy across a very popular series. However, I meant it was a dumb decision regarding development time. You may say "but it's easy to animate" and i agree, having the character have no facial expressions (it still moves the mouth and grins and much more but you get what i say), unlike other characters. However, the dev team still has to model the different transformations the plant uses in different attacks, they gotta make the hitboxes match, they have to get people to voice the character, they have to get new lines for the voice actors (Guidances, narrators across different languages, etc). Basically, a lot of work towards a joke character in a franchise with a lot of characters already (and just to note, i agree Mario should be the franchise with the most characters in the roster, given it's been a super influential franchise and it's earned its spot and stuff). What I'm saying, all of this effort could have been spent in a character from another franchise that could use the spot (Spring Man, a Zelda newcomer, more echo fighters, etc). We still got a really unique fighter i'm definitely gonna main, but i still stand it was a dumb decision for the dev team. Also Note: was developed in a mere 2 weeks, so in the case Piranha Plant had a similar development time to an echo or effortless joke chars, i'll eat my own words and shut my mouth with a zipper. | | | | |
Your fundamental flaw is calling Plant a "joke" character. There is literally nothing implying this character should be taken as seriously as Sandbag or Crusade's Weegee. It's a full fledged character, and for the reasons we agreed on above, it's a good choice for one. Unconventional != "joke" | | | | |
I mean cool, my point still stands that the character's resources could have gone to someone else, but i'm not in the right to try to convince anyone of my own opinions. So, sorry for heating the discussion, i apologize. Plus piranha plant is a character i actually enjoy using, so there's that
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Fri Feb 01, 2019 12:49 pm |
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BandanaDeeMain
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Shy Guy would've been a better generic enemy (then again I play Shy Guy in every game he's in so there's that)
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Fri Feb 01, 2019 5:37 pm |
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Kirb-Star
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maybe, having a 2nd yoshi character would be nice (yes i know he debuts in SMB2/Doki Doki Panic but shhh), but i'll admit piranha plant has more unique moveset potential than shy guy
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Fri Feb 01, 2019 5:50 pm |
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kb
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It's a pretty meaningless point because you can apply it to literally anyone and anything you don't like in the game I can say dumb s*** like "the only reason Waluigi isn't playable is because they wasted their time and money making an adventure mode that's literally 24 hours long" and nobody can really dispute it because they don't know how the development process went The devs make what they want to make, your favourite character wasn't dropped just because they wanted to put Piranha Plant in
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Fri Feb 01, 2019 6:19 pm |
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Broly
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Fri Feb 01, 2019 6:56 pm |
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Kirb-Star
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yeah, i can agree with that, plant didn't exactly take anyone else's spot (unlike other chars, like incineroar instead of decidueye, roy in favor of leif, other examples i can't remember) So anyways, i think this convo's gone long enough and all the posts already prove i'm wrong, so i propose a new subject what echoes would you guys have liked, ignore licensing issues, development time, whether or not they're already in the game or other stuff that could go against a character, i'd love to hear some ideas for extra chars like those I think Dry Bowser would have been cool, basically change his stats so he's faster and lighter (but that won't help much cause his hurtbox is still big a** f***) and throw in some of the custom moves from smash 4 (dash slash or whatever that cool side b was called) and he'd be great
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Fri Feb 01, 2019 8:31 pm |
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Nonya
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I was honestly surprised that Shadow wasn't Sonic's echo, seeing as how Castlevania got Richter.
Also, stretching that question a bit, I'd have liked to see Dr. Mario become an echo, its kind of astounding he isn't.
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Sat Feb 02, 2019 10:33 am |
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Term
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You want him to be less unique?
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Sat Feb 02, 2019 10:52 am |
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