Moving the conversation here.


I did, dude. That isn't probation. People on probation get to be members of society provided that their behaviour consistently meets certain expectations. People in jail have to wait a certain amount of time before they are allowed to participate in society again.

The blacklist is jail, not probation.

I'm curious to know who voted.

That's... exactly what my goal is. A community thrives by accepting new players and teaching them. Not by forcing them to sit games out and expecting them to get better without practice. If someone was actually going to guide Axel in observation of a major game, then yeah, I would be fine with asking him to sit out. Shoving him to the side and expecting him to learn through observation when he doesn't know what to look for is silly.

In my opinion, mini-games are the perfect place for Axel if people really don't want him playing in the main games until he gets a bit better. They go by quickly, don't require as much of a commitment and no one really cares if they get "screwed over" by a newbie because the next one is just around the corner.

I mean, if people are really that uptight maybe I'll start a probation mini-league so the official(?) mini-games aren't tainted by incompetence. (And again if people bothered to read Axel's arguments in XIV with an open mind they would see they are actually better than those of some players that aren't on the blacklist.)

a mafia school would be good if there were more than one person who actually needed it

Yeah. I don't think anyone will be bold enough to want to do another 17 player Mafia, lol.

I would like another large scale one, but I think we shouldn't because everyone drops out and it gets gay.

Well, we could have a policy on huge games that everyone must post every x amount of hours or else they will be replaced and/or modkilled.