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Nair is legit BM's best aerial. Does insane damage and is just an amazing move. Uair is garbage, Dair is garbage, Bair is okay, and Fair is good.

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Neutral Air isn't really good compared to the other aerials

Clearly you haven't seen the power of SHFFL'd NAirs
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please don't actually spam NAir like that though

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BandanaDeeMain wrote:
Nair is legit BM's best aerial. Does insane damage and is just an amazing move. Uair is garbage, Dair is garbage, Bair is okay, and Fair is good.

Dair isn't garbage if you use it right. I've used the reaper to KO lots of people.

I remember when Uair used to be a semi good juggle/killmove, now it just pointlessly knocks the opponent out of reach.

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Clearly you haven't seen the power of SHFFL'd NAirs

those are just short hop nairs, you can't SHFFL in SSF2 since there's no L-cancelling

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you can't SHFFL in SSF2 since there's no L-cancelling

Well, i'm sorta aware of that, though in SSF2, aerials most of the time have much less landing lag than they have endlag, making it have a similar effect to L-Cancelling
also there was still fast-falling on the shorthop NAirs

"In Super Smash Flash 2, there is no L-cancelling mechanic. However, almost every aerial move in the game has a brief period of time at the beginning or end of the animation during which the player will not have any landing lag. The auto-cancel frames are intentionally timed to resemble the length of an L-Canceled landing animation, which is referred to as Auto L-Cancelling or Aerial Lag Reduction."

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In other words, SHFF'd Nairs.

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Here is my two-part walkthrough on Classic Mode with Black Mage!

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Sorry for the double post, but I made a new Black Mage tutorial for beginners planning on picking this elemental boy up as a main!
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from 1 to 10, how mutch will you rework bmage?

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I'll guess 6/10
They'll most likely change his neutral special since there isn't much use for that.
I hope they keep his smash attacks

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They'll most likely change his neutral special since there isn't much use for that.
I hope they keep his smash attacks

I mean... you can shield-cancel the charge, and reflect projectiles, but i see your point - you can still just SDI away to prevent getting grabbed, and even get enough distance to air-dodge impending full-charge smash attacks (just mash C-Stick inputs along with normal ones and fly off to a chosen corner, completely denying the move's purpose of being a kill confirm), Plus it's a very laggy move, so unless you manage to confirm the move or make a good read, it'll leave you wide open for most punishes
meanwhile, Isaac's NeutralB keeps the opponents trapped on the spot.. oh well..

But if his NeutralB gets changed, I'll rather have it either be a better kill-confirm option than what we currently have, or gives Black Mage some much better defensive options (because seriously, HALF OF HIS MOVESET IS TOO LAGGY)
I'm rather hoping for his UAir to be changed, despite it being somewhat OK for juggling, it doesn't reliably kill nor gives him kill options or setups either, since BM doesn't quite have any particular anti-air attacks


uncharged Up-Smash... i guess it's good the way it is, but if i recall, it used to hit twice, didn't it? I wonder if it's going to be brought back

His uncharged forward smash... it can get pretty bad if the opponent knows to abuse the fact it can only hit once in the entire animation, because the hitbox lingers for way too long for a single-hit attack, they can just quickly shield on the early frames and grab you while still right on top of the attack's animations, i wonder if Forward Smash is going to get some changes about that specifically..

And oh boy his uncharged down smash might definitely need a few tweaks, hopefully they can bring out more of its potential
but IMO they should definitely keep the move in general, especially the full-charge version due to its potential as a shield-breaker

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It's just a big balance rework, he's not really being redesigned and his moveset isn't changing.


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@Refurin I don't mean to be annoying, but have you watched my new Black Mage tutorial yet? Sorry if you can't hear some of the stuff I'm saying. :sweat:

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It's just a big balance rework, he's not really being redesigned and his moveset isn't changing.


Oh, thanks for clarifying for everyone in here, i suppose
i might aswell make some recordings of his current attributes like an attack's base knockback and growth, damage, kill potential, and test his mobility, maybe how early he gets KO'd by a specific move, so i can see if i can compare it to the upcoming "rebalance" just so i can see how much he's had lol

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i might aswell make some recordings of his current attributes like an attack's base knockback and growth, damage, kill potential, and test his mobility, maybe how early he gets KO'd by a specific move, so i can see if i can compare it to the upcoming "rebalance" just so i can see how much he's had lol

You know, there is a thing named changelog.

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