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I love Ness so much in this update.

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So uh, can we all acknowledge the fact that Ness' backthrow is not even top5 in this game which is wrong considering his Backthrow being the best backthrow/throw is a signature of the character in EVERY SINGLE SMASH GAME?
It's literally what defines Ness in every single smash game, please, if you guys kept fox shine then keep Ness' Signature Back throw.

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Sun Jul 02, 2017 4:53 am
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i thought his bthrow is pretty good tho.

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Gudako's Insanity wrote:
i thought his bthrow is pretty good tho.

There are lots of characters who barely die at 140 from the ledge with good DI, 140, from the ledge.

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Tue Jul 04, 2017 12:04 am
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what's the point of them not dying when he has a lot of follow ups anyway.

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Wait what? you cant followup from a bthrow at the ledge at 140, you just edgeguard, and whats the point of not dying? well, i mean, his bthrow its suposed to be a Killthrow, like it always has been, always, not a single game where it isnt, thats the point.

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Wed Jul 05, 2017 12:18 am
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i dunno man, i just tested it with fox and he died at 140, he also dies even if he di's

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Yeah, 140% is too late

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TheBlue10 wrote:
Yeah, 140% is too late

Exactly, too late, and hes testing with CPU DI? Now try with Top Player DI, his Bthrow needs to be what it has always been, the best bthrow in the game and a kill confirm at a lower percentage, heck even Samus has a better bthrow how does that make sense.
Regarding beta ness the only prominent changes i suggest would be:
-Give his bthrow back, its HIS thing
-Make him able to snap the ledge, yes, he goes really far in recovery, but the landing lag just entirely leaves him vulnerable to any edgeguard, add that to the fact his pkthunder has no priority whatsoever and its too predictable and you have easier edgeguards.
-Maybe make his uthrow a combo starter? its annoying to depend every single time on dthrow to make combos, 9b Ness had uthrow for mixups and now we have to rely solely on dthrow for combos which makes the Ness reps to be seen as spammers when its literally our only viable option

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I did it in training mode and DI'd to the stage's direction, fyi.

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Gudako's Insanity wrote:
I did it in training mode and DI'd to the stage's direction, fyi.

And thats exactly what Bad DI is, Good DI is when you DI up-left/up-right to the ceiling corner blast zone during the first 5-8 frames of the Bthrow and then you DI down towards the stage, because The Top Corners are harder to reach than the ceiling or the side blast zones. So you aint applying good DI, and that is what's killing you so early, i can hand you tutorials on DI if needed.

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At least in certain situations, DI up is even better. Ness bthrow kills Puff at 100 if she DIs towards the corner, but doesn't kill her with straight up DI.

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bunq wrote:
At least in certain situations, DI up is even better. Ness bthrow kills Puff at 100 if she DIs towards the corner, but doesn't kill her with straight up DI.

Exactly, see this guy here understands DI lol

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Huh, didn't know you could DI up or down.
Maybe I really do suck at this game.
Brb gonna kms.

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Gudako's Insanity wrote:
Huh, didn't know you could DI up or down.
Maybe I really do suck at this game.
Brb gonna kms.

Oh please dont, i mean we all make mistakes, so dont feel so bad about it, but next time if you gonna participate in a conversation like this please investigate a little further before claiming that your statements are right over someone else's, to avoid confusing others and to avoid people making fun of you or something else

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